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= March 31 =

03:40:24, 31 March 2022 review of submission by Olivia Knight22
I would like to request for a re-review of StockTrim's page. It was rejected for several times for being written like an advertisement. I have re-written, removed and added some phrases with the hopes that it will qualify for Wikipedia. If this still looks like an advertisement, please advice what I should remove to make it work. Olivia Knight22 (talk) 03:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The very first sentence of the draft has a spam link to the company! Theroadislong (talk) 03:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

08:49:03, 31 March 2022 review of submission by Wikiputta
Please let me know what are charges should I make https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tim_McGeary Wikiputta (talk) 08:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You might like to suggest how they pass the criteria at WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 09:02, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode.
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/97603081/newspaper-2003-tim-mcgeatry/ is useless for notability (too sparse). A photo caption is rarely, if ever, going to have enough detail to actually cite.
 * We can't use https://www.apnlive.com/tim-mcgeary-famous-singer-and-songwriter-in-florida/ (unknown provenance). Role byline; who actually wrote this?
 * We can't use https://naples.floridaweekly.com/articles/10000-songs-ready-to-go-feb-7-in-goodland/ (too sparse, unknown provenance). Byline is omitted and what coverage there is of him is a mere listing/schedule.
 * https://www.island-hopperfest.visitfortmyers.com/artist/tim-mcgeary is useless for notability (connexion to subject). If he's part of the music festival than it follows that music festival is going to want to hype him up, fact-checking be damned.
 * https://www.janiegallegos.com/post/singer-songwriter-tim-mcgeary is uselsss for notability (no editorial oversight). Random blog.
 * https://www.alternativefruit.com/sound-read-5/tim-mcgeary-amazing-alternative-fruit is useless for notability (no editorial oversight). Another random blog.
 * We can't use https://www.marconews.com/story/life/2021/08/27/3-do-tim-mcgeary-performs-more/5574434001/ (unknown provenance). Role byline; who actually wrote this?
 * https://lunastarcafe.com/events/tim-mcgeary/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Any websites connected to any gigs he attends (or is slated to attend) are going to be considered as connected to him by dint of that professional relationship.
 * We can't use https://jammerzine.com/first-look-tim-mcgeary-pain-is-a-gift/ (no editorial oversight). I can't find an editor-in-chief or equivalent position at Jammerzine, and the outlet's About Us page throws cold water on this being a useful source: [Jammer Direct is] a multi-media hub with the goal of promoting the independent and unsigned artist by utilizing a multi-platform approach using a combination of video, online magazine, radio, television, and interactive in the forms of Jammer Direct, Jammerzine, and JammerStream as well as original programming. In short, this is payola at best and churnalism at worst.
 * https://my.listeningroomnetwork.com/artist/timmcgeary is useless for notability (no editorial oversight). This seems like a musical equivalent to Angie's List?
 * I cannot directly assess https://www.gulfshorelife.com/2014/10/27/tuned-in-inside-the-mind-of-tim-mcgeary/ (walled),, though I am certain the "bio" provided at Jammerzine for him is plagiarised from this source, as it credits the same writer and includes "Gulfshore Life" in the lede. If that is the case, then this would be usable just based on the strength of its lede alone.
 * We can't use https://archive.naplesnews.com/community/trio-honored-for-distinguished-service-ep-404217929-332470242.html/ (unknown provenance). Role byline.
 * The sourcing is no better than when I tore the original article apart to correct its (ultimately fatal) sourcing woes. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 06:46, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Jéské Couriano, did you intend to say "If that is the case, then this would be usable just based on the strength of its lede alone", or is a "not" missing? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:23, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That was intended. If the Jammerzine source is indeed plagiarising the Gulfshore Life source wholesale (as seems to be the case) then the GSL piece is an interview with a multi-paragraph lede that discusses the subject in some depth in it. An interview that has significant journalistic non-interview portions (usually the lede, though there's one case where it was after the interview) is at worst borderline. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 07:35, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

15:38:33, 31 March 2022 review of draft by Olivier Lahaye
Hello

My submission has been declined because i do not give any source or reference for the "Biography" and "Professional life" sections. The information in these section have been given by Mr Xavier Aiolfi himself, so the source is solid. Also, the draft is the translation of the French version which is already published.

Mr Xavier Aiolfi also asked me to create the translation in German, please let me know what i need to do so the draft can be published.

Thank you Olivier

Olivier Lahaye (talk) 15:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * please see WP:V anyone needs to be able to verify the information in the article, so him telling you is not verifiable by anyone and is not "solid" for the purposes of Wikipedia. The existence of articles on other language wikis also has no bearing here as each language is it's own project and has it's own rules and policies. You may also want to read WP:COI as you obviously have a conflict of interest. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 15:47, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Aiolfi seems that he might pass the notability threshold, but the fawning tone and awkward translation are very distracting. Also, since you know him personally, you included too much unsourced and unverified info.  I suggest you first read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE, and then save the article as a text file.  Then completely rewrite it using only information that can be sourced from independent third party sources.  Don't include any unsourced info.  Forget everything he told you. It will be a smaller article but will have a better chance of being accepted. If there's not enough material to build a biography, in any language, then he doesn't meet the notability threshold. TechnoTalk (talk) 16:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Olivier Lahaye Did you take the picture that's in the draft? You uploaded it as "own work", which means you took the picture.  Yet it has the author listed as "Raphaël SCHOTT".  You might not have taken the picture. @TechnoTalk, @Mcmatter, I am not 100% sure, but should that picture be tagged? 73.127.147.187 (talk) 07:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the ownership is suspicious. OTRS should have flagged this and requested proof of ownership. You can list it at Files for discussion.  TechnoTalk (talk) 17:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

17:24:26, 31 March 2022 review of submission by 156.196.77.199
156.196.77.199 (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but why don't you start by adding a perfectly sourced, succinct section about the organization to Feminism in Egypt? You won't need as many sources. If there's enough material down the road, it can be later expanded into its own article. TechnoTalk (talk) 16:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

17:56:23, 31 March 2022 review of submission by Insanepro
Insanepro (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This would be a slam-dunk A1 deletion were it in mainspace. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 22:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)