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= May 13 =

04:44:17, 13 May 2022 review of submission by NickyThejournalist
NickyThejournalist (talk) 04:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

I recently Submitted an article and it was Declined for "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified." would you be able to tell me which sources? Can you help me so I can get this page published correctly.
 * We're looking for a in-depth, non-routine, independent source about the subject that was written by an identifiable author and published in an outlet with competent editorial oversight that fact-checks, discloses, corrects, and retracts for each and every claim that could possibly be challenged. Refer to the top table here:
 * We can't use https://lincolncitizen.com/joshdifferent-takes-fitness-to-another-level/ (Unknown provenance). Despite the article having a named author, it reads like a particularly incompetent attempt at native advertising due to how blatantly it's trying to "sell" Joshdifferent to readers.
 * We can't use https://fairmontpost.com/content-creator-joshdifferent-opens-up-an-emotional-motivational-speech-about-family-dysfunction/ (unknown provenance). Same issues as the Lincoln Citizen source, which isn't a surprise since this outlet is a sister publication and has all the same hallmarks of an incompetent black-hat SEO service.
 * We can't use https://www.blackbirdnews.com/content-creator-joshua-blackwell-aka-joshdifferent-makes-the-entertainment-world-looks-like-a-breeze/ (unknown provenance). Blackbird News is a known black-hat SEO outlet; any articles from them are thus assumed to be native advertizing unless there's strong evidence that proves otherwise.
 * We can't use https://brand.education/joshdifferent-2x-poetry-competition-winner/amp/ (unknown provenance). Yet another black-hat SEO piece.
 * We can't use https://3lmnews.com/new-song-god-on-my-side-by-music-artist-joshdifferent-brings-our-unique-swag-to-the-music-industry/ (unknown provenance). This one at least has the common courtesy to not try to lie to you that it was written by an actual author instead of some hapless contractor off of Fiverr by using a role byline.
 * We can't use https://3lmnews.com/joshua-blackwell-also-known-as-joshdifferent-is-now-sponsored-with-c4-energy/ (unknown provenance). Once again, role byline.
 * Did you actually read any of these sources? The lot of them read like ad copy, and are written to take in gullible fools who mistakenly believe they're actual news, so as to improve a subject's search engine ranking results. We're nowhere near as credulous as the audience these "news pieces" are intended for, and we're not going to accept an article, let alone a biography of a living person, based on such obvious churnalism. A Google search gives me absolutely nothing usable, either (string: joshdifferent) - not even the News section, which tends to include an embarrasing-for-Google amount of black-hat SEO and churnalism in its results, shows up. The chance of this becoming an article at this time is absolutely zero. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 07:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

09:40:56, 13 May 2022 review of draft by Pensy65
Could you please give me a specific suggestion on how to improve this article so that is published? I used existing sources of information that refer not only to fragmented articles, but also to articles that are related to the company’s history and not produced by creator of the subject. For example : CNews/”Moscow Times” / D.J. Peterson articles are independent, reliable and published sources. I appreciate your help. Thanks a lot. Pensy

Pensy65 (talk) 09:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It was declined as advertising eg. “SmartDev makes it easier for companies to scale people, processes, and products.” “focuses on delivering high quality products with short turnarounds”, “a strong track record in the development of applications” “gaming development company with over 70 years of cumulative industry experience” “focuses on bringing leading edge technologies to developing markets across Europe, Africa, and Asia. The Group” none of which is acceptable and is just blatant advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

09:45:46, 13 May 2022 review of draft by Pensy65
Could you please give me a specific suggestion on how to improve this article so that it is published? I used existing sources of information that refer to the company’s history and current trends. What kind of additional references to be used? I appreciate your help. Thanks a lot. Pensy

Pensy65 (talk) 09:45, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not for merely telling about a company. An article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Please read Your First Article.
 * If you work for this company, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 10:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Request on 15:07:45, 13 May 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Greenjoy1445
why was my draft deleted it was just for fun

Greenjoy1445 (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Request on 15:08:29, 13 May 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Krakozjabla
Dear reviewer, my submission was declined due to it was not supported by reliable sources. I studied this topic well for my article and tried to collect well-known reliable sources, and they are also independent, like klankosova.tv and albinfo.ch. Some of them contain entire articles (not passing mentions) written about TVALB as the first Albanian IPTV platform that launched in the US for the Albanian diaspora, as well as about the support of the company from the Republic of Kosovo. Could you please help me with some more clear information about the references in my article? Why are they not considered reliable and what kind of additional references should be used? Thank you in advanced.

Krakozjabla (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

15:21:48, 13 May 2022 review of submission by Spacecat711
My draft for a children's book author was declined with this comment, "Early life section - try not to use author biography writeup as they may be provided by the author." I am not sure what is meant by this, how can biographical information not be provided by the author? The source I initially used was provided by her publishing house (Allen & Unwin), although this information can be verified across multiple sources. I have since changed the source to the Australian Writer's Center. Any insight and assistance you can provide about author biographical information moving forward is greatly appreciated! Spacecat711 (talk) 15:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * We aren't interested in what someone(or close associates) says about themselves, only in what independent reliable sources say about them. What she or her publisher say about her is a primary source. If an independent source with a reputation of fact checking and editorial control reports on her personal history, that should be used instead of statements from herself or her publisher. 331dot (talk) 15:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

16:06:12, 13 May 2022 review of draft by Kpddg
Hello. I had created this draft in January, and it has since been awaiting review. But today I saw another article created much later, by another user. I don't think that article went through the Afc process. It also lacks references. What should be done here? Thanks in advance.

Kpddg  (talk)  16:06, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Now, Theroadislong has declined the submission. Kpddg  (talk)  04:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Would it be better to move this draft into mainspace? The existing article seems to have a few problems. Kpddg  (talk)  05:12, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This has been solved now, thanks. Kpddg  (talk)  07:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

16:12:18, 13 May 2022 review of draft by XenaRyder
My submission on Parisi Vending Co. was declined on grounds of notability/references (or both). I originally provided 6 references. Three of those references now have hyperlinks for verification. I am unable to find the other three online, but have PDFs of the original magazine articles. Is it possible to: 1 - Attach PDFs in citations? (I could not find a Help topic on this.) 2 - Get more specific feedback on what needs to be provided/corrected? Eventually I would like to do multiple articles on the history of bulk vending, which would provide more context for your article on Folz Vending. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

XenaRyder (talk) 16:12, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * In order:
 * We do accept PDFs as sources, but note that Wikipedia generally cannot host them as they're going to be copyrighted in 99.9% of cases (see WP:NFCC).
 * Of your sources, three of them are missing critical bibliographical information (page #s and authors), one of them is about the wrong subject (coverage of the founder is not coverage of the company), another is an announcement of a new product launch/test, and the last is a very sparse and routine article about a website redesign. None of the sources I am able to assess are in-depth, non-routine, independent articles written by identifiable authors and published in outlets with competent editorial oversight that fact-checks, discloses, corrects, and retracts.
 * Does this help? —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 19:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

16:48:24, 13 May 2022 review of submission by Leonardrigby
What specifically do I need to add in order for this article to be published? Thank you!

Leonardrigby (talk) 16:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Reliable, independent sources, NOT press releases or his own business websites. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

19:49:12, 13 May 2022 review of submission by Michron777
I believe that before I did not include the online references so that they are easy to be reviewed and verified by someone. Perhaps that was greatly lacking. Before it was mainly hard copy. Now I added where they can be viewed online. Also, I added more accurate detail in the references (location of publication, page numbers, and ISBNs).

Michron777 (talk) 19:49, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. The references are not appropriate for establishing notability. 331dot (talk) 20:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

21:19:07, 13 May 2022 review of submission by Prof Mo Lill
Prof Mo Lill (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Your draft was accepted, do you have a question? Theroadislong (talk) 21:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)