Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 November 1

= November 1 =

08:55:22, 1 November 2022 review of draft by Sahar.Ahmed
Sahar Abuelhaija 08:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Can I ask for a help to assist me in publishing this article?
 * You have submitted it for a review, what assistance are you looking for? 331dot (talk) 09:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

09:43:46, 1 November 2022 review of draft by Matar Gaza
Flying Person (talk) 09:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Matar Gaza: what is your question? You have resubmitted the draft, and it is awaiting review.
 * Speaking of which, please don't just resubmit without addressing the reasons why it was declined, as that won't get you any closer to acceptance, and may actually end up with the draft rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

10:21:43, 1 November 2022 review of submission by Repton School Abu Dhabi
Hello Team, I am writing to the helpdesk because I am trying to write a page about Repton School in Abu Dhabi. This is not for promotional purposes and I would like to understand why the page keeps getting deleted.

thank you

Repton School Abu Dhabi (talk) 10:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Repton School Abu Dhabi: did you read the decline notice that was posted in the draft and on your talk page? Copyright violations will be deleted pretty much on sight.
 * There's also no real evidence of notability, which is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia.
 * And finally, as has already been pointed out to you, your username is against policy, and needs to be changed (chances are you'll be blocked soon, otherwise). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

12:44:53, 1 November 2022 review of submission by Patrick21london
To Wikipedia/ Can you advise me on how to improve my article about the science fiction film "Dune Drifter", in order for it to be published on Wikipedia please? I have added at least six references to actual reviews of this film at the time it was released in 2020. Marc Price's previous film "Colin" has an entry on Wikipedia. His next film "Dune Drifter" equally deserves to have an entry on Wikipedia because it is a very good budget science fiction film, praised by reviewers at the time. Let me know what additions I need to make to ensure that my article about "Dune Drifter" is accepted for publication in Wikipedia. From Patrick Lee, United Kingdom, 1 November 2022.

Patrick21london (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Rejection means that resubmission is not possible. No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. That a filmmaker's other films may merit an article(if they do), does not mean that they all do. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

19:15:14, 1 November 2022 review of submission by Leobaker202
Leobaker202 (talk) 19:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC) duo to the fact that this is the first time of me using Wikipedia and creating an article, as i should point out, i am actually the owner for Jettergames and at this moment in time am currently Trying to get certain things setup now, duo to the fact this is my first time using this, if needed, You could prob edit the draft i've made or create it with the info you can find, most of it mainly being on the website that was included as a Reference in the original Draft

if nothing can be created yet, i would ask if things related to jettergames could be checked on, every now and then, so an article could be made at some point, where there is enough info and things to allow the creation of an Article

Should mention too that part of why i was also doing this is because i was attempting to get the official twitter account for this stuff Verified, as we have a Official twitter and Youtube account, and also a Itch.io Account as well
 * We dearly wish Twitter (and every other social media network) would remove the "Wikipedia article" text from their verification requirements; it leads to spammy non-articles like this. We need in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-the-subject news/scholarly articles written by identifiable authors and subjected to rigourous fact-checking to even consider having an article. If those sources don't exist, we can't have an article, full stop. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 19:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Even when the info is coming from the Owner of the Indie game development team? which is also the very person you're talking to atm
 * Considering we do intend to actually make something and just say we're going to make something and suddenly disappearing into a vaper that gets washed away by the wind of the earth
 * so, besides the whole twitter thing, that is one other reason i was making that too, since one is going to exist at some point, maybe not now as i can see, but at some point it will exist from someone else making one Leobaker202 (talk) 19:25, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * accidently did a Typo in that or a wording mistake
 * Considering we do intend to actually make something and just say we're going to make something and suddenly disappearing into a vaper that gets washed away by the wind of the earth
 * should of been
 * Considering we do intend to actually make something and not be one of the people that say we're going to make something and then just suddenly disappearing into a vaper that gets washed away by the wind of the earth without nothing Leobaker202 (talk) 19:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Even when. In fact, we don't trust anything directly from the horse's mouth as a source except for claims that no reasonable person could challenge, and the subject themselves is useless for determining notability. That you intend to make games isn't relevant here; that wouldn't help with a Wikipedia article at all. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 20:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * well just know that when a Wikipedia article is made at some point by someone else
 * if any info is incorrect on the article, it will be changed, or removed, with Legal Force if needed consideirng someone is going to make one about jettergames at some point, much like ones exist about Nintendo itself or other game development places Leobaker202 (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Leobaker202, Be very careful with your words we do not tolerate any sort of legal threats. You can and may be blocked for making such threats. There is no owners of any article on Wikipedia, if an article is created about your company then it will NOT be under your or anyone who works for the company control. We policies in place to ensure that everything is sourced to independent reliable source the same reason you are currently finding impossible to write the initial article. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 20:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Right, some sources of which also happen to be incorrect at the same time, given Wikipedia also has a reputation last i checked for also having not so correct Info and then straight up complete false info on some subjects Leobaker202 (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Also just as quick clarification
 * That 'legal threat' was actually words with real intention of something that WILL happen if needed, when something is made at some point but that is only if theres ever a point where something like that has to happen for a specifice reason
 * Only want to make sure any info on something like that when something is made, does infact have all the correct Facts and Info about some of the things, and not having anything incorrect when someone does make something at a later point Leobaker202 (talk) 20:32, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment User is now blocked McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Mcmatter. Was coming here to note that. NLT, or only here to promote Jettergames was, unfortunately, not going to end any other way. It does not appear Jettergames is notable by any definition as yet. Star   Mississippi  21:09, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

19:19:18, 1 November 2022 review of draft by Ronnie Bond Music
Hello,

The feedback I was given is 'unreferenced'. Which part of what I wrote about my late father is unreferenced? I would like to publish this so please let me know what I need to remove.

Ronnie Bond Music (talk) 19:19, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ronnie Bond Music: well, given that there isn't a single reference in it, the whole draft is unreferenced. Please see WP:REFB for advice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:30, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * A Wikipedia article must summarize what published independent reliable sources say about topics that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability, in this case, the definition of a notable musician. Articles are not for summarizing personal recollections- published sources that can be verified must support the content. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 19:32, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for the very quick and helpful feedback. I have updated the page now with sources. Hopefully that will be enough to get it published. Ronnie Bond Music (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

21:24:16, 1 November 2022 review of draft by Maormer
I was going to publish an article about a 1978 Soviet TV movie that doesn't have an article on the English Wikipedia yet. The inspectors replied that the subject maybe not qualifies for a Wikipedia article. I understand why this is so, but quite a few relatively little-known Soviet films (with several hundred estimations on IMDB) have their own short articles, although they are rarely mentioned outside the Russian Internet space. But they have articles and they are present in the lists of Soviet films. This movie is not in the lists, although it exists. Sorry for my clumsy English, I am from Russia and don't speak English as good as I need to. Thank you in advance.

Maormer (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Your English is pretty understandable, don't worry. The issue is mainly the article being written more as a bunch of lists outside of the plot synopsis; we favour prose over lists. You also can't use the absence, presence, or condition of other articles to argue for your own. Are there any reviews of the film anywhere, online or off, in any language? —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for so fast answer. Yes, this film has a lot of articles and reviews, but only in Russian. Maormer (talk) 21:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I need to replace a long and detailed description of the plot with spoilers with a short annotation, right? Or, if I will I add more facts about the production of the film from Russian-language articles, will I be able to save the "plot" section in the form in which I created it? Maormer (talk) 21:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd shorten it to more of a summary style, yes, and information about the film's production, plus the Russian-language reviews, would help. Being in Russian or offline is not an issue; we accept non-English sources, print sources, and print sources not in English. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, I'll try. Maormer (talk) 21:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I tried to seriously rework the article - I added several sections with information that is more suitable for Wikipedia, and removed a few that were, added links to each fact that I cited in these sections. I think the article is more suitable for publication in this form, but i am not sure.
 * I have left the "plot" section unchanged for now. But if a long description with spoilers is absolutely not suitable for Wikipedia, I will change it, of course.
 * And I have a little problem with the links: I have several links to the same article, but its different links in the draft. Is there any way to fix this? Thank you in advance. Maormer (talk) 15:49, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure of my English in the draft. I'm afraid I've written some grammatical nonsense that will make English speakers laugh. Maormer (talk) 15:54, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Or what else can you advise me to change so that the article can be published? Thank you in advance. Maormer (talk) 21:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)