Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 November 25

= November 25 =

08:12:21, 25 November 2022 review of submission by Sylveno
Sylveno (talk) 08:12, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

My username is Sylveno I would be happy to know why my article ,BBCH code for tea plants, was refused for publication. Maybe I could correct the article.Sylveno (talk) 08:12, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Sylveno: did you not read the decline notice? It says that an article already exists at BBCH-scale (and I don't think we need a separate article on only tea plants specifically). Also, your draft is virtually unreferenced, listing (without citing) only a single source. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

12:21:50, 25 November 2022 review of draft by IanGarnerDomainer
I have reviewed the content and cannot see any opportunity to add extra references / alternative references. The links are from both organisations (Escrow), well known domain outlets (Assets Show) and credible independent domain reporters (James Isles AND Domain Name Wire) as well as others. The domain name is the 2nd largest domain by value ever to be formerly reported and is of great interest to many domain enthusiasts who will want to know some details of the transaction and have somewhere to refer back to as and when the page gets developed.

If you could give some additional insight into what might make this a publishable article, I would really appreciate it,

Many thanks

Ian IanGarnerDomainer (talk) 12:21, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If there are no other references, the topic likely does not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @IanGarnerDomainer: the sources are a mix of blogs and commercial vendors, in other words all primary, and as such insufficient to establish notability per WP:GNG, which requires significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. (The InvestingTodays.com piece looks like it might be secondary, but I don't know how independent and reliable it is, and in any case it alone isn't enough.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

14:22:23, 25 November 2022 review of draft by Scandinavian Music
To whom this may concern.

I would be very thankful to get guidance on how to list up my sources correctly in order for the article to be approved by the editors.

Looking forward hearing from you.

Scandinavian Music (talk) 14:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Scandinavian Music: you need to cite your sources inline (WP:ILC), so that it's clear which source supports what information, and how much if any remains unsupported. See WP:REFB for advice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:01, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

15:13:36, 25 November 2022 review of submission by 71.185.36.172
71.185.36.172 (talk) 15:13, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You don't ask a question, but this draft has been rejected. Please refer to multiple earlier threads on the same topic. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

17:16:20, 25 November 2022 review of draft by EthanM73
Hello and thank you in advance for your assistance. If someone can please guide me as to where the issue(s) are specifically, I can look into it and fix. There is significantly more than topical mention of this subject in the citing submitted. In fact, I think this article is over-cited if anything. I have carefully provided relevant, non-bias and neutral information with third party published articles, books, professional (company) blogs, and websites. Although there are many press releases published online, they were intentionally kept off in accordance to wiki guidelines, despite their support to the subject. This is article is meant to cover the Founder & CEO of a major Los Angeles event (primary); a notable filmmaker with published works and appearances on prime time networks, and documented entrepreneur. I am more than happy to edit and/or revise any information that may appear to be superfluous or not neutral in accordance to Wikipedia, but will need to be directed. Please advise and thank you again for your assistance.

EthanM73 (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you have an association with Mr. Pelletier, it needs to be disclosed, please see conflict of interest. If your relationship involves any form of compensation(i.e they are a client, being employed, etc) the Terms of Use require that to be disclosed, see the paid editing policy.
 * You have done a nice job of documenting and sourcing the things that Mr. Pelletier has done. The trouble is, that's not what we are looking for. An article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about Mr. Pelletier, showing how he meets the definition of a notable person. "Significant coverage" goes beyond merely telling us what the subject has done, and goes into detail about their significance or influence as the source sees it, not as the subject sees it about themselves. What are your three best sources that chose to discuss Mr. Pelletier? 331dot (talk) 17:25, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time with your reply. It's truly nice to hear more than "Get it right" with links to policy. So, thank you for that.  I am in no way connected or commissioned to write anything on Wikipedia (or anywhere else for that matter).  If I need to declare that somewhere, please do advise.  Mr. Pelletier qualifies as a notable person in that the culmination of his Works in the entertainment industry have lead to founding a very well-known and award-winning international film festival in Los Angeles, partnered with Caruso and AMC Theatres among others major brands; hosting red carpet celebrity events annually. His position and achievements in this regard are well-documented online w/ approved wiki sources like "Rotten Tomatoes" among others.  The purpose (I felt) for adding additional information about Mr. Pelletier was to offer credentials and background as to how he arrived at this "known for" work.
 * That said, this is a living person, and it needs to be done correctly. So thank you again for your guidance. Please let me know if this particular source below is in-line with what you're looking for, and if so, I can supply others.  Do video interviews with professional companies and platforms qualify?
 * Magazine Blog: Final Draft (leading entertainment industry brand): https://blog.finaldraft.com/davinci-international-film-festival-hosts-first-live-event-in-two-years?utm_campaign=Blog&utm_content=221868565&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-97021458311&fbclid=IwAR01N_7BCGfceCsSIqaoir9Uc7Lwmlt2Jc7tbQcFsXWAxdx4VuVsyqVUT_Y
 * Thank you again. EthanM73 (talk) 20:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately blogs are rarely considered to be reliable sources and what is your connection to User:KleanMedia? Theroadislong (talk) 20:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * In wiki policy for reliable sources under user-generated content, newspaper and magazine blogs are an exception. KleanMedia contact was sourced from a general contact form inquiry at the official festival website regarding coverage. EthanM73 (talk) 22:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The blog post is an interview so is not indpendent. Theroadislong (talk) 22:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Despite Mr. Pelletier's credits, associations, and media coverage, it appears he's not qualifying for an article at this time. I will revisit this later with the proper sources, if not published by someone by then. Thank you for the support and guidance. EthanM73 (talk) 23:55, 25 November 2022 (UTC)