Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 October 11

= October 11 =

03:04:59, 11 October 2022 review of submission by Sush150
Sush150 (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * What is your question @Sush150? This draft has been rejected. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Request on 05:18:16, 11 October 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Dubaiinfo
I am requesting help regarding the article in draft which i had been updating from time to time and expected some contribution from other so that article will be neutral as per the wiki guideline, i wrote article taking reference from internet and submitted first draft after 7-8 months which was rejected. so i rewrote the article again which was rejected again after reading the comments i am not sure how to modify it further as i was reading other similar article they are also written in similar tone, so anyone is welcome to modify article as i have already added lot of references.

Dubaiinfo (talk) 05:18, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Dubaiinfo: what help are you requesting? You need to be more specific, and preferably ask an actual question.
 * FWIW, I had a look at the sources cited in this draft, and I don't see them adding up to proof of notability, but I'll leave it for another reviewer to judge that.
 * First, however, you need to respond to the paid editing query I've posted on your talk page. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Regarding Help i mean someone to contribute towards this article to so it get published, I have been managing this article for over 8 months it was decline despite make lot of changes to the draft so i have given up on this as i can see another article similar to this published if that is published why is this declined example: Majid Al Futtaim. Both people are from UAE and both are billionaires one heads Majid Al Futtiam group and other Heads Al Habtoor Group. my third attempt for this was to make it similar to the article mentioned in this reply still it got declined so i am not sure how article draft which i did violates wiki policy and other doesn't.
 * Regarding your Second part which i don't understand Paid editing, what is this does Wiki allow paid editing? If this is paid service i cant pay as i am doing it as a voluntary work. Please advice how can i get this draft approved Dubaiinfo (talk) 16:29, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "Paid editing" means that a person is editing as part of their job, or being specifically paid to edit.
 * The whole url is unnecessary when linking to another Wikipedia article or page, simply place the title of the target page in double brackets, as I did for you here.
 * It could be that the other article you reference does indeed violate policy and has simply not been addressed yet. You must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. You have just documented what the person has done, this does not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 16:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dubaiinfo: by and large everyone works on articles that are of interest to them. I can't speak for the other AfC reviewers, but I for one have no interest in this subject, so will have to cordially decline. Perhaps you can ask at the WikiProject United Arab Emirates in case someone there is willing to chip in.
 * My question regarding paid editing comes from noticing that you have created a number of articles, all with Al Habtoor in the title, which suggests you may have something to do with the group. Please read carefully the message I posted on your user talk page, and action as relevant. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Request on 06:13:19, 11 October 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Fourpizzaslices
I have been trying to find relevant sources to cite on this article of a Nepali company, but the only information available is on the company website. Could you help me with this? What can I do to put reliable citations?

Fourpizzaslices (talk) 06:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Fourpizzaslices: if you cannot find reliable and independent secondary sources, then that alone tells us the company is almost certainly not notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia (at least the English-language one; you may have better luck on the Nepali one). Please note that sources don't have to be in English, or online, as long as they otherwise meet the WP:GNG standard, and are appropriately cited.
 * That said, this draft seems to be just marketing blurb, and should IMO be deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:20, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

13:52:07, 11 October 2022 review of submission by Naimuddin386629
Naimuddin386629 (talk) 13:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Naimuddin386629: you don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected and will not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:57, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

17:02:26, 11 October 2022 review of draft by Bsimonis
I am trying to create an entry for architect Charles Du Bois. Unfortunately, not much is known about him and references are difficult to find. Cu Bois was a well known set designer for the studios and as an architect he designed nearly 170 homes in Palm Springs, California. His style is unique and he is an important addition to the Desert Modernists, or Palm Springs School of Architecture. Your assistance with this entry is greatly appreciated. Bsimonis (talk) 17:02, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sources do not have to be online, they need only be publicly available. However, if what you say is true, that there aren't enough references, he would not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. Any article about him must summarize what independent reliable sources say about him, if there are no sources, there is nothing to summarize. 331dot (talk) 17:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have added links to newspaper and magazine articles that I have been able to find. I would like to resubmit. Should links be inline or added to the reference area? Bsimonis (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Bsimonis: you should use the system of inline citations + footnote sources, as described in REFB. And if you want to cite the same source more than once, please use NAMEDREF which keeps the footnote list clean and tidy. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Even if you add references, the draft would probably not be accepted unless you also rewrite it in a more neutral and less narrative tone. I could give examples, but the whole draft is written in a kind of journalistic / essay register, which doesn't work in an encyclopedia article. --bonadea contributions talk 09:11, 12 October 2022 (UTC)