Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 October 2

= October 2 =

03:06:40, 28 September 2022 review of draft by PDmeds9
Hello. I want to try working on this page again. I don't know how to proceed. Can I get my page back up and rework it to make it better or should I make a brand new page? I'm unsure if I did this right on this review for submission page. PDmeds9 (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The text that was deleted was a clear advertisement, so you would be better off starting over. A Wikipedia article should not just document the existence of something and tell what it does; it must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. "Significant coverage" goes beyond just telling what the topic does and goes into detail about its significance or influence. Interviews, press releases, announcements of routine activities, and the like do not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

10:50:00, 2 October 2022 review of submission by 4EVER1 FAMILY
4EVER1 FAMILY (talk) 10:50, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * (Draft deleted, user blocked.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:07, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

13:20:02, 2 October 2022 review of submission by U Thein Naing Ohn
U Thein Naing Ohn (talk) 13:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

15:04:32, 2 October 2022 review of submission by Lizeen
Requesting a Wikipedia page for Nia Orea. She is notable music producer, have tried to create a page before but it was declined. The sources are credible and I’m looking for help in recreating a new updated page. Thanks

Lizeen (talk) 15:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * A Google search (string: "nia orea") gives us pretty much nothing we can use, so the answer is a hard no. Coverage in third-party news/scholarly sources, not existence, are the criteria we use. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 18:23, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

15:08:49, 2 October 2022 review of submission by GregorSun
GregorSun (talk) 15:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I write a technical article about the third CAN XL protocol. The predecessor are CAN bus and CAN FD. I have several resources in the articel from different magazine, organisations, manufactures. What else can I do to have reliable resources?
 * Why are you using bulleted lists of improvements rather than writing prose discussing them and citing reviews or analyses of the protocol? —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 18:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Rudolf Pfnor
As I look through AfC sorting/Culture/Visual arts I'm always happy to see something that doesn't seem an attempt (whether subtle or blatant) to aggrandize a current artist, gallery or similar. (Also, I'm mildly attracted by names such as Pfnor.) Thus it was that I converted this draft to this article. But now that I've done the deed, I'm distinctly underwhelmed by Pfnor's claim to notability. I'm not sure if draftification would be legitimate; but if anyone would care to draftify, this would raise no objection from me. -- Hoary (talk) 23:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Hoary: with my NPP hat on, draftifying is (so I've been told!) just kicking the can further down the road. :) Besides, searching with both the German and French rendering of his name produces results which suggest this person probably is notable, even if online sources may be difficult to find. With that in mind, I'll go and mark this as reviewed — if some less generous person later decides to unmark it and gives me grief over this, so be it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I added that their work is in the British Museum so they pass WP:NARTIST easily, though the museum notes they are female? Theroadislong (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Good comments, DoubleGrazing 'n' Theroadislong. Thank you both; I shall sleep soundly tonight. -- Hoary (talk) 09:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)