Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2022 September 28

= September 28 =

00:09:27, 28 September 2022 review of submission by 98.186.55.18
This needs a another review because we are one week away from the postseason because team articles for the 2023 usally happen around this time. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 00:12, 28 September 2022 (UTC) 98.186.55.18 (talk) 00:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Draftspace is not an appropriate place to draft templates; userspace is more suitable. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 00:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

00:11:44, 28 September 2022 review of submission by 98.186.55.18
These Article need to be created because the 2022 Regular season is almost over 2023 MLB Team articles are suppose to begin now. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 00:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC) 98.186.55.18 (talk) 00:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

03:06:40, 28 September 2022 review of draft by Copiri
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Hi,

I understand the intention behind the comment that my draft article received, "zero primary sources provided." However, this is intended to be the first step towards a documentation page about a company I am affiliated with. How can one provide primary sources about one's existence, when your existence is the primary source? If I tell you my name, and you ask for a source to reference, who could you reference other than more people that I told my name to?

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer. I've waited almost 6 years to set up this page because I figured we needed a track record, and I'm struggling to understand how to show it to you.

All the best!

Copiri (talk) 03:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Copiri: the reviewer wasn't saying this needs primary sources, but this only cites primary sources. To be included in Wikipedia, you need to show that the subject is notable, and in most cases that means citing secondary sources (newspapers, TV programmes, books, etc.) that are independent and reliable, and provide significant coverage of the subject. If you can find such sources, great; if you cannot, then you cannot have an article — not because of what the company does, but because the company isn't notable in Wikipedia terms.
 * Before you do anything else, however, you need to a) change your user name (user names are not allowed to be names of organisations or anything else that implies there is more than one person behind them), and b) formally disclose your conflict of interest and paid editing. I will post messages on your talk page with instructions. Please note, these are hard requirements, not optional extras, so please attend to these ASAP. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

10:09:10, 28 September 2022 review of draft by Emkaykay
Hi, I just resubmitted the article. However, I am unsure what is wrong with the inline citations and the rules do not really clarify the issue. I would highly appreciate any clarification. Thank you very much!

Emkaykay (talk) 10:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The content of the draft includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations there are 8 paragraphs with no citations at all. Theroadislong (talk) 11:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

11:15:06, 28 September 2022 review of submission by Brbs.kh
Brbs.kh (talk) 11:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. It is one line that does not show how the business meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  Not every business merits a Wikipedia article.  Please read Your First Article- as writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 11:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

11:31:13, 28 September 2022 review of submission by Testdrivevroom
The article created was rejected basis the person's age citing that since she is around 30 years old, she is not notable to warrant a Wikipedia article. This is illogical. The article on her has relevant references added plus additional websites to help in the credibility. She works in the public eye and is a credible figure. Please help in having the article on her approved. Testdrivevroom (talk) 11:31, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you have a connection with this person? Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about someone and what they do.  A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person.  It may sound odd, but you actually have too many sources.  Fewer high quality sources are preferable to a large number of low quality sources.  Your sources seem to just document her activities.  That's now what Wikipedia is looking for- sources must on their own- without prompting by the person- discuss her and explain why she is significant. Please read Your First Article- writing a new article is the most difficult task to attempt on Wikipedia- diving right in without experience editing existing articles and knowledge can lead to problems. To pass this process, only three sources need to be summarized.  What are your three best sources? 331dot (talk) 11:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Testdrivevroom The rejection information does NOT say that "since she is around 30 years old, she is not notable".  It says "No 30 year-old lawyer is likely to be notable."  Notice the word "likely" in there.  Also, that sentence was more like a supplemental comment to the decline information that's inside the pink boxes.  THAT information is what gives the actual decline reasons, such as "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage...".  If the subject is notable, and if your cited sources demonstrated that notability, the draft would not have been declined.
 * Some of the text seems a bit unencyclopedic to me. Do we need to know that "pursuing law was not part of her plan" and that she "locat[ed] a workspace with the aid of a real-estate developer acquaintance" or that "she decided to take a brief professional break"?  This sounds too "chatty" for an encyclopedia article.  "Prestigious" is considered wp:puffery.  Hope this helps. David10244 (talk) 05:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

11:42:18, 28 September 2022 review of submission by SwetaReporter
SwetaReporter (talk) 11:42, 28 September 2022 (UTC) I have added information in Aurangabad page Notable people from News Jawaharlal Darda Rajendra Darda

and after big research also added few names why only two names showing what about other


 * @SwetaReporter: this help desk is for AfC drafts, whereas the Aurangabad article isn't one. Maybe you could ask at the TEAHOUSE instead? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

11:52:57, 28 September 2022 review of submission by 60.60.181.197
60.60.181.197 (talk) 11:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, so it is difficult to help you. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 14:06:06, 28 September 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by NadiaZ602
I would like suggestions on how to update the article for it to be of a more neutral standpoint. I do not want it to appear promotional and thus be disapproved. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you!

NadiaZ602 (talk) 14:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

14:38:24, 28 September 2022 review of submission by MCharles123
Good day. My submission for this bio has been rejected. Initially, as a new contributor, I had made mistakes of not providing sufficient references as required. I managed to clean up the bio over a period of time and the bio has been rejected again, reason being cited as "The article is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia".

The subject is a prominent person who deserves noting in current-day politics and his business efforts. The bio is not for self-promotion as the subject (Zareef) already is quite popular as he speaks around Universities in the country and other public events. I humbly request that you review the submission and if anything needs to be amended, kindly indicate. A simple Google search will show many results on the subject on multiple, reputable Media House articles. Looking forward to a favourable outcome of this submission. Thank you. MCharles123 14:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * this draft has been rejected and won't be considered further. You may approach the reviewer who rejected it, but you need to be demonstrate that either new evidence of notability has come to light since the rejection, or something relevant was not considered at the last review; simply saying that you want the draft to be reviewed again is unlikely to suffice, especially as there is nothing in the draft that would suggest any notability exists. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

14:48:54, 28 September 2022 review of draft by Danielsuraqui
Hi, I have completed my article draft ‘The Soup Kitchen’ (SP) and I am ready to submit it. As you can see the article deals with an organization for poor children founded by my father Elias Suraqui 80 years ago and which ceased its activities in 1964. Hundreds of documents mention the soup kitchen mainly originated from very reliable sources mainly from JDC archives but not only. I was extremely careful about the autobiographical risk and I refrained from mentioning my father's name. I have done that only on two occasions, at the very beginning to mention he was the SP founder, which is an unavoidable statement, and at the very end to say he got the ‘legion d’honneur’ from the French government on the basis of his humanitarian activities in Morocco. I have done that because the official French document mentions explicitly the SP creation and the corresponding source is highly trustworthy. I am sure that if somebody else not related to my family had written the same article, my father's name would have been mentioned many more times since it is quoted very often in the JDC archives. Most of the article's secondary sources are books, which mainly use the same primary sources JDC and AIU archives that I equally quote. Most of those books or articles praise the high quality of the above archives. Furthermore, hundreds of Wikipedia articles refer to JDC archives .Please let me know your comments before the article submission.

Danielsuraqui (talk) 14:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Danielsuraqui: I don't know if anyone has any comments as such; do you have an actual question you wish to ask?
 * Also, given what you say about your relationship with this organisation, you need to make a conflict-of-interest disclosure. I noticed that a query has already been placed on your talk page with instructions. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

19:31:38, 28 September 2022 review of draft by Maywebeforgiven
I received feedback that my article needed reliable sources. There are 5 citations from newspapers and magazines; I do not know if I need more citations or if the ones provided are somehow not satisfactory.

Maywebeforgiven (talk) 19:31, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Your offline citations are all missing page numbers. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 19:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Maywebeforgiven I'm looking up Baker in the WP:Library and I'm getting some hits, so let me add those too. Alyo  (chat·edits) 19:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

21:11:10, 28 September 2022 review of draft by Mferree
I am not clear why my page submission for Duran Ferree, who is a professional soccer player for the San Diego Loyal, is being rejected. I am providing solid references.

mferree (talk) 21:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It is not being rejected, it is being declined, www.ecnlboys.com is not an independent sources and Twitter is not a reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 21:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)