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= September 29 =

01:39:01, 29 September 2022 review of submission by Hyccc20
Hi, I requested a review on the draft of the article few weeks back, and have made some changes to the draft since then. Would it be possible to guide me with what to do next? Thank you. Hyccc20 (talk) 01:39, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A draft being rejected typically means resubmission is not possible. If something has dramatically changed since the rejection, such as new information that the reviewer did not consider, please first appeal to the last reviewer directly. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

08:07:31, 29 September 2022 review of submission by Ptharshbhardwaj
Ptharshbhardwaj (talk) 08:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please see the username policy. 331dot (talk) 08:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

09:58:10, 29 September 2022 review of draft by David Zilpimiani
David Zilpimiani (talk) 09:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

I am an employee of the company founded by David Zilpimiani. and I used the name David Zilpimiani as username. How can I prove that he is not writing about himself? David Zilpimiani (talk) 09:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Inga Bajelidze
 * The best way would be to change your username, which may be done at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. Either way, your username needs to be changed as you are not Mr. Zilpimiani and a name cannot be that of a company. Once you change it, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for that clear answer. I requested to name it the company name. After it will be changed I will disclose that I am paid to contribute. Will it be right? David Zilpimiani (talk) 12:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The name cannot simply be the name of a company. That implies a shared account, in violation of our user name guidelines.  You can make it "David Z at Stereo Plus", or better yet, pick something generic that you won't have to abandon when you change jobs. We hope you'll "catch the bug" and edit and contribute in other ways. TechnoTalk (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

12:39:40, 29 September 2022 review of draft by 2A05:4F46:6B:C900:10BA:E32A:C079:9B4C
2A05:4F46:6B:C900:10BA:E32A:C079:9B4C (talk) 12:39, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Daer, what do you think. How can I improve my article about a Croatian historian Hrvoje Spajic. Heartly, R


 * Please just read the comments left by reviewers. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * You asked and received an answer on 26 September. Was that not enough? David10244 (talk) 05:15, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

12:47:38, 29 September 2022 review of submission by JoeOstholtoff
JoeOstholtoff (talk) 12:47, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

My article has been rejected because I do not show significant coverage. I have used his own website, the sponsors website, and the racing circuit to talk about him. What other sources would be helpful?
 * It would appear that you do not pass WP:NMOTORSPORT and your draft has little in the way of independent sources, your own website is useless for establishing notability. Theroadislong (talk) 12:57, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you are not Joe Ostholtoff, you will need to change your username at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. Wikipedia is not interested in what someone says about themselves, or what their associates say about them. An article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. As it seems Joe does not, the draft was rejected, and will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 12:57, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This information is not always clear to newcomers, but Wikipedia's volunteers takes great pains to not have the site turn into an indiscriminate collection of information. The entries have to meet a notability standard. Earlier entries may not meet this standard, but that means they were written before standards were properly enforced. We use information published about the subject in independent, reliable third party sources to determine whether a subject meets the notability threshold. Anything written by the subject, or written by those in his/her employ, is unsuitable. For example, press releases are frequently cited in draft articles by inexperienced editors, but anyone can write and issue a press release.  Having one doesn't make someone notable. It is early in your career and you have not gotten enough press coverage yet.  Keep doing what you do well, and hopefully one day that will change. Lastly, another guideline we require people to follow is to not write about themselves, or at the very least, to disclose that they are writing about themselves, not so they can be hassled, but to make it easier for independent editors to correct potential problems with tone, style and sourcing. If you want to edit a draft about yourself in the future, if you get more media coverage, please see Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to make the required disclosure on your user page. TechnoTalk (talk) 22:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

15:55:20, 29 September 2022 review of submission by Billatek
Missed adding to country. Now i added location and country. Billatek (talk) 15:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a directory of businesses where mere existence warrants a mention.  This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called "notability"; see the definition of a notable business.  Any article about this business must not merely document its existence, it must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about it, showing how it is notable.  331dot (talk) 15:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

This is my first article and I created an article for decorpot. The company is in a good performance and I saw many articles in Daily newspaper, So I planned to set up the company in Wikipedia. Billatek (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please do not create a new section of this page for every comment you make- just edit this existing section for any follow up comments. This may be easier to do in full desktop mode, even in a browser on a mobile device.  Please review the definition of a notable business, and if the news stories you have seen are more than just brief mentions, staff interviews, or announcements of routine business activities, please approach the last reviewer to appeal.  Please note that logos cannot be in drafts due to copyright issues- if an article is accepted about the business, the logo may be added then. 331dot (talk) 16:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

16:08:27, 29 September 2022 review of submission by Jcdemier
I received this message: This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. The sources cited are Reuters, Car & Driver, Automotive News, El Confidencial and El Mundo (Spain), in my opinion, they are pretty well-established media outlets or news agencies, could you help me to understand what type of sources would be considered "Reliable" in this matter.

Should I avoid the company's official source of information? Could be a problem that the sources are in Spanish and English? Should I not use the person profile LinkedIn profile?

Thanks

Jcdemier (talk) 16:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The company's official sources of info are not independent and Linkedin.com is not independent or reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 16:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Fixed the link for you- it shouldn't be a url. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company says about itself or its own personnel. That sources are in Spanish is not a problem.  Social media profiles contribute nothing to notability.  The problem is not the news outlets themselves, but the content of their stories- which seem to be mostly documentation of this man's routine activities as a businessperson(such as resigning or being given additional responsibilities).  A Wikipedia article about a person must summarize "significant coverage" of the person- coverage that goes beyond just telling us what they do, and goes into detail as to why it is significant/important/influential. What are your three best sources? 331dot (talk) 16:16, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Theroadislong @331dot
 * I consider this 3 the most important/influential sources:
 * Automotive News, Automotive industry information leader in US.
 * Car & Driver best source on products and car reviews in US.
 * El Mundo, top spanish newspaper Jcdemier (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's not what I meant; what are your three best specific citations?(not the outlets themselves, what they published) 331dot (talk) 16:52, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I like Automotive News Europe (1), El Confidencial (in Spanish), Reuters, and Automotive News Europe (2). I made a few improvements to help show notability. TechnoTalk (talk) 22:30, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

17:29:47, 29 September 2022 review of submission by Ciao bill
Why are the sources in my submission not reliable? What portions of the article are unsourced? How do my sources differ from those in this article Becky_Duval_Reese? How do my sources differ from those in this article Gerald_Nordland Ciao bill (talk) 17:29, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 18:40:19, 29 September 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 2600:4040:5F93:5800:D8CE:704A:39CE:A3D4
I own markmincolla.com so nothing is being copyrighted. Can you please approve this message?

2600:4040:5F93:5800:D8CE:704A:39CE:A3D4 (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * No, that's not how it works. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Per Berne literally everything is copyrighted the instant it is published. Unless the copyright licence is explicitly stated (as is the case with Wikipedia), it's all-rights-reserved. We can't accept material copied from all-rights-reserved sources because it's mutually-exclusive/fundamentally incompatible with Wikipedia's content licence. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 21:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a copyright statement at the bottom of the home page, so the information IS copyrighted. We don't know that your IP address (2600:4040...) is used by the same person who owns the copyright to the material on the page, but that wouldn't matter anyway, as DoubleGrazing and Jeske say. David10244 (talk) 05:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)