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= September 9 =

07:55:39, 9 September 2022 review of draft by Isaiah okolie
I am requesting a little help for the article i submitted but later turned down.

My drafts for Lord pharizz was turned down please I want to know where I made a mistake.

Isaiah okolie (talk) 07:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Isaiah okolie: there are all sorts of problems with this draft, so much so that I think you're lucky it was only declined and not speedily deleted.
 * There are no references. See WP:REFB.
 * There is no indication of notability. See WP:GNG.
 * It seems to be an autobiography, which is a really bad idea. See WP:AUTOBIO.
 * It's also pretty promotional, but that's probably the least of its problems. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Your draft lacks any sources or references so cannot be considered, there is zero indication that the topic is notable so you are probably wasting your time. Theroadislong (talk) 08:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

08:51:56, 9 September 2022 review of submission by Talimkhannoida
Talimkhannoida (talk) 08:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * What is your question, @Talimkhannoida? Your draft has been rejected and will not be considered. (And please don't post this blank query several times. Thanks.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:04, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

09:02:25, 9 September 2022 review of submission by SItsandzile
Greetings. I submitted and article for "Amanda Mo", a female artist born in Eswatini but is currently based in South Africa. The article was rejected for not having reliable sources. I would like to point out that the sources used in the article were mainly those from South African and Eswatini National Newspapers that were specifically written to cover Amanda Mo and contained her as the headline for the articles, with her being a main headline story for the entertainment section of the publication. Eswatini does not have any magazines or tabloid publications. The country only has two main National newspapers, The Eswatini Times and Eswatini Observer. Eswatini also does not have regional newspaper publications but only has The Eswatini Times and Eswatini Observer to cover the whole country. For these publications, Amanda Mo as you will notice, is the main story and the articles are specifically written about her and her music because she is a notable and well respected musician in her country. Furthermore, The South African Publication called The Daily Mail which is a National Newspaper in South Africa also specifically published a story about her and music and had her as a headline. Also used as part of her references is her recent Power FM 98.7 interview, Power FM is one of the biggest talk radio stations in South Africa. Additional references were from PressReader. Please kindly highlight how these sources are no considered to be reliable, Taking for example the case of her home country Eswatini which has only two National Newspapers that have the country's Government endorsement, how would these be regarded as not reliable sources? How then would an artist from Eswatini be considered to have notable sources if the only two existing and trusted National newspapers are not considered reliable? Does this then mean that Wikipedia articles cannot be published for the Eswatini people unless they have articles from foreign countries written about them? Is this considered fair to Eswatini national? I am very concerned because this rule does not apply to other artists that have been approved by using references from their home countries. Please kindly help and assist on this regard. SItsandzile (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @SItsandzile: debating this issue is somewhat academic, given that the draft appears to be a significant copyright violation, which is why I've requested for it to be deleted.
 * I've also posted on your talk page a conflict of interest query. Please respond to that before editing further. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:44, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes I responded to that. Thanks SItsandzile (talk) 09:54, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

13:28:33, 9 September 2022 review of draft by Ggchor
Hello, Are there specifics that need to be taken out of the article or included?

Ggchor (talk) 13:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * There are currently large parts of the article that are entirely unsourced. Additionally, the sources that are in the article include two unreliable sources (WP:FORBESCON and what looks to be a industry press release republisher). ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:34, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

14:21:52, 9 September 2022 review of submission by Chibombwe1
Chibombwe1 (talk) 14:21, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 14:46, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Request on 14:42:02, 9 September 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Col. Coca Cola
I need help citing my references

Col. Coca Cola (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Col. Coca Cola: you are citing several sources, they're just not reliable ones. (See WP:RS) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * can you help me find reliable ones? Col. Coca Cola (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read more about reliable sources. These would be things like news reports. 331dot (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Col. Coca Cola Unfortunately, the volunteer editors who answer questions on this page about how to edit on Wikipedia do not (usually) help other editors (like yourself) do the research that's necessary to write an article.  That work is up to you.  331dot has pointed out some information that should be helpful.  Finally, please don't ask on your user talk page for an article to be reviewed quickly.  WP has no deadline.  Good luck. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 04:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

17:50:28, 9 September 2022 for assistance on Draft:Autosphere submission by JujuKP
Hello,

My post on Autosphere is systematically declined for the reason "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources". However, I have added reliable and quality sources, such as that of the BANQ which is the National Library of Quebec Archives. They are referencing Autosphere and all the details about the magazine. I would like to know what I should do and especially understand why I see a lot of validated pages when they hardly cite any sources.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Julien

JujuKP (talk) 17:50, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @JujuKP: that "not adequately supported by reliable sources" decline notice can mean two different things: either the sources aren't reliable, or the draft isn't adequately supported by them. In this case, it's the latter (at least — I'm not commenting on whether the sources are, or aren't, reliable). Meaning, much of the content isn't supported at all, with several paragraphs without a single citation, begging the obvious question where is all that information coming from? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! So I should remove some parts of the text ? JujuKP (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you can't support them with reliable sources, then yes, you should remove them. Essentially, an article should only summarise what reliable published sources have said about the subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:08, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

22:59:39, 9 September 2022 review of submission by Zara2308
I want to have feedback from fellow wikians Zara2308 (talk) 22:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Zara2308: you will get feedback, of sorts, when you submit this for review (assuming it doesn't get deleted again). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:06, 10 September 2022 (UTC)