Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 August 26

= August 26 =

07:04, 26 August 2023 review of submission by HealTheWorld144
I have created an article for a VERY notable person who i feel is under recognized. He has affiliations with celebrities and world leaders and more than enough sources and was even tagged by Rolling Stone Magazine. I think the person who rejected the submission is racist and doesn't appreciate black voices advocating for black people. HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @HealTheWorld144: be very careful with accusations of racism or any other prejudice, especially when directed at an individual editor where you have no proof whatsoever. Personal attacks will not be tolerated, so make sure this was your last one. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * yes but it was a malicious response to say my article was "Contrary to the purpose of wikipedia" when i created a page for an AMBASSADOR who has been tagged by CNN, Rollingstone Magazine, Kyrie Irving, is in NTV News Stories and Newspapers and Affiliated with Scotty McCreery... Can anyone justify the idea of these sources constituting a "Contrary purpose" to that of wikipedia? HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:32, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * what im saying is as a new editor, i would appreciate a thorough critique of my article that i took alot of time to find all those sources and listen to this guys lives on his social media to put this together. Only for some random guy to come and give the vaguest claim of my work being "Contrary to the purpose of wiki". That sounds CRAZY to me. I would need more details. Seriously? my article is "BEYOND SALVAGINg?" yep sounds like someone is not being genuine HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:38, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , perhaps you may want to find another website to host this content. It is nowhere near an acceptable article and is completely inappropriate for this encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * no i want to him to have a Wikipedia. Why is it that no one gives any details here? HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:45, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Facebook, YouTube and Blurb books are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 07:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are sources where i mentioned general info about the man's message. Where else is better than his own book or social media? Those are are the minority. I made sure the majority were credible press sites. Rolling Stone, Justia, LA Tribune, WRAL, EURWeb, Rolling Out Magazine. Whats the issue? I think quoting his social media is appropriate for someone who gained notoriety from going viral. This is a new day and age. Social media is a thing and a credible source for certain information concerning the owner of the profile. But i will remove those points anyway to make you guys happy HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:51, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not want to know what someone says about themselves(except in very limited circumstances), Wikipedia wants to know what others say about a person. If you just want to tell the world about this person's message, that's what social media is for. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If basketball players have a wikipedia then i think the man who has provided accessed to ancient scrolls from the Nasarean Essenes to the public should definitely have one. Make it make sense? HealTheWorld144 (talk) 07:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * People do not "have a Wikipedia". Wikipedia is the name of this entire website, which is composed of individual articles about notable topics. 331dot (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @HealTheWorld144: with "some random guy" and "sounds like someone is not being genuine" you are again casting aspersions at an individual reviewer, despite the earlier warning. Do not pursue this line of insults and accusations any further, or I will request that you are duly sanctioned. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ok well i took the detailed criticism from this thread and i removed the social media references and all narratives associated with social media references. And i added some more national press references from Kenya and direct celebrity association. Also reworded a bunch of stuff so hopefully you guys are happy with the changes. Let me know if it reads better. Thanks and ill leave any commentary about anyone out of my responses from now on. HealTheWorld144 (talk) 10:10, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Rejected typically means that a draft may not be resubmitted. You must first appeal to the reviewer to convince them that something has fundamentally changed about the draft in order to resubmit it. 331dot (talk) 10:21, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

09:31, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Nebosky
Hello, my article has just been rejected on the grounds that it was published in Bosnian on the English Wikipedia, which is not true because it is written in Serbian and is intended for the Serbian region. What can I do to resubmit my article to review? How can I change the language on Wikipedia? Please help! Nebosky (talk) 09:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * If you intend the article for the Serbian Wikipedia, you need to go there to publish it. I have provided this link. 331dot (talk) 09:35, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

09:55, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Rebekkin
I do not fully understand the reason my last draft was rejected. Additional information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Regards, Joseph Farrugia Rebekkin (talk) 09:55, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Your draft was only declined, not rejected. "Rejected" would mean that it could not be resubmitted, "declined" means that it may be resubmitted. Please read the messages left by reviewers at the top of the draft. Sourcing seems to be the main issue. 331dot (talk) 09:57, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

10:58, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Samirshass
My article got rejected everytime can anybody can help me to make sure it is not rejected. Samirshass (talk) 10:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Your draft has not been rejected, it has been declined. "Rejected" has a specific meaning here, that a draft may not be resubmitted.  "Declined" means that it may be resubmitted. You must address the concerns of the reviewer, which are that you have not demonstrated that the company meets our special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  Wikipedia is not a place to just tell of the existence of a company and what it does. You must summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about the company and what makes it important/significant/influential.  Such sources cannot include interviews, press releases, announcements of routine business activities, and brief mentions.  Please read Your First Article.
 * If you work for this company, the Terms of Use require that to be disclosed, please see the paid editing policy, as well as conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

14:47, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Iam Stylox Vai Official
-Draft creation using the WP:Article wizard- Iam Stylox Vai Official (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This is an encyclopaedia, NOT social media. Theroadislong (talk) 14:51, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

18:24, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Wikiuser8787
Can i know the reason this article is declined ? Iv found different of pages similar to this type of article and references and they were approved and still on wikipedia can you please show me the differences of this article for example : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krysle_Lip (she got the same reference and coverage from the site Audiofuzz.com) and even less references than "Decreek" has Also this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Riot Same reverences is showing from audiofuzz.com the same number of references as "Decreek" has Decreek has a reference from New Noise Magazine which is a notable and reliable reference Wikiuser8787 (talk) 18:24, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, . Your draft has seven references and only two sentences. If this person is actually notable, then surely much more can be said about him. As for the comparison to Krysle Lip, that is a poor quality stub article flagged as having multiple issues. Wikipedia does not need more poor quality articles. It needs less of them. Cullen328 (talk) 18:37, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also please note that interviews are not reliable, independent sources and you need to show how the subject passes WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 18:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

18:44, 26 August 2023 review of submission by Clyde Jimpson of the Arkansas String Beans
Pardon my brashness in putting forth this question but I would like to inquire as to why this subject is not notable. A few articles in the New York Age all quite focused on this man and his restaurant could perhaps warrant a stub article such as this. If I could source the birth and marriage info at the start or perhaps remove it altogether, I believe it could pass grade. If a second serious objection is raised as to notability, I will lick my wounds and move on. One again, apologies for questioning reviewer judgement if that is how this appears. I just wish to create a discussion. Thanks in advance! Clyde Jimpson of the Arkansas String Beans (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There are assorted mentions of him in the New York Age, and a few adverts but no significant coverage? Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Whilst I'm not quite sure what significant coverage means, you have a point. The New York Age covered his activities periodically for the most notable years of his life but I suppose significant coverage would mean more than one paper covered the topic in question. As I have no other articles to improve the page with, I believe I shall have to move on. I'll just save the page in some form for my own archive and then the draft can be deleted. How do I get it deleted? Thanks in advance, from Clyde Jimpson of the Arkansas String Beans (talk) 19:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be deleted in 6 months automatically if it wasn't edited further, but perhaps you can find better sources in the meantime? Other reviewers might chime in with other opinions. Theroadislong (talk) 19:36, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

19:17, 26 August 2023 review of submission by HealTheWorld144
I have removed social media references and narratives based on social media data. Please review HealTheWorld144 (talk) 19:17, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

23:12, 26 August 2023 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:A251:E00:8D0D:F62D:4394:2AF8
My English version of this page has been declined, yet less detailed French and German pages already exist. This makes no sense. Either my version is acceptable, or my additional information is not trusted but a straight translation of the French page (which is a bit more detsiled than the German) is acceptable, or none of them are acceptable in which case the French and German pages should be taken down (which, in my view,would be a mistake). 2A02:C7C:A251:E00:8D0D:F62D:4394:2AF8 (talk) 23:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Each language version of Wikipedia is a separate project, with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on one version is not necessarily acceptable on another. The English version tends to be stricter than others. It's not the case that an article must exist on all versions or not exist on all versions. 331dot (talk) 23:51, 26 August 2023 (UTC)