Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 February 3

= February 3 =

Request on 00:12:00, 3 February 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Golfer22tp
My request to create a page Larry Kennedy (baseball pitcher) was rejected by a Wikipedia reviewer. The subject was said by the reviewer not to be sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I wanted Larry Kennedy included in the catgory:Baseball Players from Nebraska. there are many names included in that category that are less notable than Larry Kennedy. James Bonnici is a baseball player included in Wikipedia. He is no more notable than Larry Kennedy. There are many more examples under the category baseball players from Nebraska. That Larry Kennedy as a boy living in an orphanage (Boys Town - Father Flanagan's Home for Boys) should come to the attention of a major league baseball team in the United States of America, be drafted by them, and be signed to play professional baseball by them in 1938 would certainly be considered notable by many people who are baseball fans. Please accept my article for inclusion in Wikipedia.

Golfer22tp (talk) 00:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. It does not summarize what multiple independent reliable sources say about him. 331dot (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I took a look on Newspapers.com, and he certainly looks to be a GNG pass. I'll try to at some point this month work on it and get it to mainspace. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

02:17:14, 3 February 2023 review of submission by 98Tigerius
The reviewer declined the first submission as it was WP:TOOSOON but now there's new added reliable sources and the show premiered yesterday. 98Tigerius (talk) 02:17, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, . It is way too soon in my opinion since this show just premiered. Wikipedia is a lagging indicator not a leading indicator. Cullen328 (talk) 08:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

03:58:03, 3 February 2023 review of submission by Thomas Elsy
Thomas Elsy (talk) 03:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

My article got declined, saying "Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified." I have already shared url on the news about the same. Can you please help me to understand what else I need to submit?

08:03:36, 3 February 2023 review of draft by Soonuu
Soonuu (talk) 08:03, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello, anyone here can help and guide me
 * Hello, . Whenever I see an extraordinary claim like, I expect to see a citation to an extraordinarily high quality source. Instead the reference is mediocre and unconvincing. That pretty much summarizes the entire draft. Cullen328 (talk) 08:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok sir, will change it. Thanks for your guidance Soonuu (talk) 08:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

13:10:46, 3 February 2023 review of draft by Bear1375
So this is my first Wikipedia article and I have chosen an afghan writer to write about. I have used Persian, English, and german sources for most of articles. I have also used author books too (made sure they are not self-published) but the article was declined because it is not adequately supported by reliable sources. so I would be thankful if someone here could help me. thanks. Bear1375 (talk) 13:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Based on reading it, it will probably be easier to focus on his ambassador work in terms of demonstrating notability, as current/former government officials are usually notable and have sources about them to summarize. You've listed his writing works but you have no sources that summarize how he is important or significant as a writer(see WP:NWRITER) or academic(WP:NACADEMIC). 331dot (talk) 13:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks for your reply. most sources about his work as an ambassador are just interviews about the routine issues of Afghanistan and Tajikistan (nothing too serious), which I thought were not really notable. the only one I noticed was the opening of the embassy building.
 * I think I need to remove some parts about his imprisonment and living in Iran since I can't find a source. as for his significant as a writer, I have found a written source form Afghanistan foreign ministry in which the former Afghanistan president has said (work of this writer will be praised for the next 400 years), does that count as a how important he is ?
 * do you have any other advice so it could get approved ?
 * thanks Bear1375 (talk) 14:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Request on 17:52:34, 3 February 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Tdepp00111111
Hi, it appears my page was flagged for copyright and was not published. However, I don't feel that is an accurate assessment for the following reasons. 1. I was told the page was flagged because I took information from the following places: https://statemag.lab.prod.getusinfo.com/2021/05/0521feat01/, https://www.state.gov/antiterrorism-assistance-program/, https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/ESP-19-06.pdf It says that the information was copyrighted, yet I cited all three links over the appropriate information. Secondly, two of the three links are government websites or reports. This information falls under public domain/fair use. The first link (State Magazine) was only used, because the Wiki creation page states that references should be drawn from multiple locations. The information posted in State Magazine can also be found in other GAO reports (USG entity and therefore fair use).

2. The review also stated "...copying and pasting or closely paraphrasing sources is not acceptable. The entire draft should be written using your own words and structure." The rough draft of this submission was written by myself and another intern for the ATA separate from Wikipedia. The submission was then modified to a more effective/presentable format for Wikipedia.

Ultimately, I am unclear how to proceed to make this submission acceptable for publishing. The information used mostly falls under fair use, because it is published by the US Government -- and the information that is more "murky" has been cited appropriately. How should I then proceed? Is there the possibility of a third opinion review type situation?

Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from wikipedia!

Kind Regards, Tdepp

Tdepp00111111 (talk) 17:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

20:00:38, 3 February 2023 review of submission by Alnsp
Hello, this person is very famous for her work. You can check the verified accounts on social media sites and the references Alnsp (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Fame is not the same as notability. No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. 331dot (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

20:11:24, 3 February 2023 review of draft by Rohit3648
Rohit3648 (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You don't ask a question, so it is difficult for us to help you. 331dot (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)