Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 July 21

= July 21 =

00:32, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Jjcoste2
Is there a wikipedia forum/Help desk where one can present a draft for comments/ suggestions? Jjcoste2 (talk) 00:32, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That is what happens when you submit an article for review! Theroadislong (talk) 06:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

03:27, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Eocorbet
I submitted an article draft for Jonathan Blum back in May but am unsure if I have properly submitted it for Wikipedia to review my updated changes and accept my work. If you are reading this, can you please confirm on my end that you can at least see my submission article for Jonathan Blum as I am unsure if anything it being reviewed. Eocorbet (talk) 03:27, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The correct link is Draft:Jonathan Blum (businessman) it is awaiting review. Theroadislong (talk) 06:53, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

06:12, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Singh Pankaj7230
Just want to know more to improve about myself Why About us got Rejected. Help me to get to know the things in order to improve and live it Singh Pankaj7230 (talk) 06:14, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Singh Pankaj7230: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a social media or blogging platform where you can tell the world about yourself. Every topic must meet our notability standards. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:25, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Then I want to create my Profile So, that I will write some about Mathematics tricks and problem. Then How will I able to do so? Singh Pankaj7230 (talk) 06:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Also I want to create my Mathematics Page on Wikipedia. I am new in Wikipedia. So, I want to create Page Singh Pankaj7230 (talk) 06:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Singh Pankaj7230: there are no 'profiles'. You have your user account. You can include some limited content about yourself, and your Wikipedia 'career', on your user page, within the rules of WP:UP. Other than that, we have articles, and in order to create one, you can get all the advice you need at WP:YFA. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:36, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: I've just sent another of your page creations for speedy deletion. Please don't continue in this manner, or you are likely to get into trouble. If you're not sure how Wikipedia works or what you're doing, you can ask for advice at the Teahouse. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

08:37, 21 July 2023 review of submission by SDGVE
Hello,

I am looking for advice on how I can publish a page about myself, family and working life so far.

Can you support me on this? SDGVE (talk) 08:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @SDGVE: you should not be publishing an article about yourself, for the reasons outlined in WP:AUTOBIO. This is an encyclopaedia, not a social media or blogging platform.
 * In any case, promotion of any sort, incl. self-promotion, is not allowed on Wikipedia.
 * Last but not least, articles can only be accepted on subjects which are notable in Wikipedia terms. This is usually derived from significant coverage of the subject, in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. Your draft cites no sources whatsoever. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:43, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

08:42, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer
Dear Wikipedia Team,

Good Day!

I published my article on my company, "ACE Money Transfer", which was declined due to references. In a response received from your team, I was guided about having my references/resources aligned with four different categories that I am unable to understand.

Please help me understand the type of resources/references Wikipedia accepts so that I may resubmit my article with fresh resources.

Thanks and Best Regards Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer (talk) 08:42, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer: first things first, you must formally disclose your conflict of interest and paid editing status, before anything else. Instructions were posted on your user talk page a few days ago, and despite your subsequent protestations you most certainly do have a conflict which has to be disclosed – please note, this is a hard requirement, and not an 'optional extra'.
 * As detailed in the decline notice, we need to see significant coverage of your company in multiple secondary sources that are both reliable and fully independent of the subject. Note that this excludes routine business reporting (appointment news, M&A, financial results, new locations, etc.), interviews, sponsored content and churnalism of any kind. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear DoubleGrazing,
 * Thank you for your help; now I understand what type of resources I may include.
 * Regarding the concern of conflict of interest, I had already responded and explained that the article isn't a commercial or paid one. Can you help me how can I properly explain and submit the response to prove that it's entirely unpaid and aimed at only informing public about a company that offers services directly for customers for over 20 years? Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer (talk) 09:11, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * "informing public about a company" is pretty much our definition of advertising here which is not allowed. If you work for the company then you are deemed to be a paid editor and are required to make the disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 09:14, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer: you have repeatedly referred to the subject as "my company" etc., which clearly implies that you have either an employment or ownership relationship, or both, with the company. Whether or not the draft is promotional in nature has nothing to do with this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Theroadislong,
 * Can you please guide how to make the disclosure? Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer (talk) 09:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer: the instructions have already been posted on your talk page, but for convenience, you can go to WP:PAID. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:41, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear DoubleGrazing,
 * Thank you for your help; I've gone through the guidelines for disclosure. Here, I want to bring into your notice that I'm not particularly paid anything for the Wikipedia page, and it falls under my core responsibilities. I get monthy compensation for my role with the company that involves other several tasks. So, in that case, will I still need to make the disclosure? Aftab Ashraf at ACE Money Transfer (talk) 09:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * yes, you will need to. lettherebedarklight晚安 09:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

10:40, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Asuhendra
please provide assistance or steps to write biographies of people who are still alive, because this article is in the form of a portfolio with the permission of the person concerned, thank you Asuhendra (talk) 10:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Please read about conflict of interest as you should make a formal disclosure. Permission from an article subject is not required in order for there to be an article about them. Wikipedia is not a place to post a portfolio or resume. This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, please see the definition of a notable person. Any article about a person must summarize what independent reliable sources say about a person, showing how they meet that definition. Yiur draft was rejected and will not be considered further and will be deleted as blatant promotion. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 10:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

16:28, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Yen930407
Hello, because the information on this historical figure is very scarce, it is transmitted by many descendants, and many contents are also very scarce, but this historical figure has made great contributions to the contemporary army and education. I hope you can help to pass it. Yen930407 (talk) 16:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * If information is very scarce then it is likely that the topic doesn't warrant an article. It is also pointless and disruptive to re-submit with zero changes. Wikipedia requires the topic to have been covered in-depth by reliable, independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Yen930407: we cannot accept articles without comprehensive referencing, because firstly all the information must be verifiable from reliable sources, and secondly we must be able to ascertain that the subject is notable.
 * Besides, if you cannot find sources to back up this draft, then where is all this information coming from? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

16:32, 21 July 2023 review of submission by 2400:1A00:B012:19D5:7D31:AB4B:22A8:BE4A
How to Auto create article? 2400:1A00:B012:19D5:7D31:AB4B:22A8:BE4A (talk) 16:32, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * What does "Auto create article" mean? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * IP user, if you are asking how to create an article yourself without needing to submit it as a draft for approval, you can't. IP users and new accounts cannot directly create articles. Even if you could, unless you are experienced in having articles successfully created and retained, you really should submit them first. 331dot (talk) 08:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

16:40, 21 July 2023 review of submission by Medesima1
Where can I find how to properly cite a book? How to list the title, ISBN number, etc? Medesima1 (talk) 16:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * See the template cite book.}} Theroadislong (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Medesima1: in the text editor window, under the 'Cite' menu, one of the options is 'Cite book', which effectively implements the template which you can find detailed and documented at Template:Cite book. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC)