Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 July 27

= July 27 =

01:17, 27 July 2023 review of submission by NoelineKyle
How do I delete the redirect notice on my sandbox page re Catherine Tully, I have already accepted that it has been rejected and am fine with that. However, I cannot submit any new names/etc until the redirect is deleted from my page and I just cannot find how to do that? Thank you NoelineKyle (talk) 01:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @NoelineKyle: if you mean your sandbox draft Draft:NoelineKyle/sandbox, then you were always able to edit that page. All the same, I've deleted the redir which was there.
 * Secondly, just to clarify, the Draft:Catherine Tully draft was only declined, not rejected, so once you've addressed the decline reason(s), you're welcome to resubmit. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I want to begin a new submission but I can't because the draft thingo on my sandbox will not let me do anything and I don't know what the redirect means? I can't send it anywhere, I can't delete it and I can't use my sandbox to start a new submission?????
 * I won't be pursuing Catherine Tully again as looking at the notables list I don't think she fits as a person suitable for Wikipedia  on her own... and I am not interested in researching the 19 others who received the 1914 Star (mons ribbon) so that I could maybe do that...
 * All I want is to understand what the redirect message means and how I can just rid of it as it is blocking me from doing anything?
 * Sorry to be so befuddled but I have tried everything
 * Noeline NoelineKyle (talk) 06:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @NoelineKyle: sorry, I earlier blanked your sandbox in the draft name space, whereas you probably meant User:NoelineKyle/sandbox? I've now blanked that as well, so you should be able to use it normally now. Does that help? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

02:51, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Toddkatz
In discussing why this article was rejected one of your editors going by the name Dragonfly-6-7 essentially compared my submission and other Wikipedia articles out these as an unflushed public toilet. I don't think this was a personal comment and I don't believe the editor had actually reviewed my submission. And I did get the point. I mention this because it seems unlikely that this course appoarch to discourse will encourage folks to submit articles to Wikipedia or donate to your worthwhile organization (as I have done for many years).

"If you found an unflushed public toilet, would you think a) this needs to be cleaned up or b) I guess I don't need to flush eitehr(sic) ?" Toddkatz (talk) 02:51, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Toddkatz: what is your question / how can we help you? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:13, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You have been trying for 7 years to create the article Draft:Clipperz Password Manager do you have any conflict of interest? Please disclose this on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 07:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Someone apparently has deleted my user page which is quite shocking to me. To answer your question I am a user of the Clipperz Password Manager. I have no other relationship with the company but I do have a long-standing interest in innovative freeware. There are many other password managers on Wikipedia and it seems to me that Clipperz is at least as relevant/notable because of their cryptographic achievements. Maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand why my user page would be deleted. Did it contain objectionable content? What was that content? Toddkatz (talk) 17:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddkatz: I requested that your user page be deleted, because it contained a copy of the Clipperz draft, which contravenes WP:UPNOT, including but not only the point about WP:FAKEARTICLE. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was wondering about that. I hadn't looked at the page since 2016. I didn't realize it was against the rules which I assume were also in place back in 2016 also. Thank you. Toddkatz (talk) 22:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

06:13, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Gulfray01
i'm his fan Gulfray01 (talk) 06:13, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Gulfray01: okay... did you have a question you wanted to ask? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * yes why he is not in google search? Gulfray01 (talk) 07:08, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've absolutely no idea. Maybe you need to ask Google, or him? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ok why he is not in wikipedia? Gulfray01 (talk) 07:11, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Because nobody has written an article about him. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * so please write an article about him Gulfray01 (talk) 07:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not how it works, . It is you who is expected to write the article. Cullen328 (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

07:43, 27 July 2023 review of submission by 103.233.141.117
The reason for requesting assistance in writing a Wikipedia article about Paresh Nanda is likely because he is a notable individual who has made significant contributions and achievements in various fields, such as entrepreneurship, digital marketing, app development, and social entrepreneurship. His journey from a BSc-IT graduate to a successful entrepreneur, combined with his innovative thinking and social initiatives, makes him a noteworthy figure in the digital era.

Creating a Wikipedia article for notable individuals like Paresh Nanda is a way to document their life, accomplishments, and impact on society in an encyclopedic and neutral manner. Wikipedia aims to provide unbiased and verifiable information, making it a reliable source for readers seeking to learn about notable figures and their contributions. By having a Wikipedia article, Paresh Nanda's story and achievements can reach a broader audience and be preserved for future reference. 103.233.141.117 (talk) 07:43, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * This draft is awaiting deletion. Please don't try to use Wikipedia for promoting anyone or anything. Thank you.-- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:48, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This draft is filled with promotional fluff like, and vast swathes are entirely unreferenced. It is pretty much the opposite of an acceptable encyclopedia article, which must be well-referenced and written from the neutral point of view. Cullen328 (talk) 08:05, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

10:20, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Davdotfam
This is not a promotional content, this is a first editor trying to get his first article published. Davdotfam (talk) 10:20, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * what's to be done to make the article formed into a wikipedia standard? Davdotfam (talk) 10:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Davdotfam. Unfortunately this article has been Rejected so cannot be considered further. There is nothing you can do. Your draft, despite repeated comments from reviewers, still contains promotional language.  Qcne  (talk)  10:33, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Promotional language as how? what's the escape route? to make it fit for wikipedia? Davdotfam (talk) 10:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There is nothing you can do, @Davdotfam. At this time Tomike cannot have a Wikipedia article. Here is some example of promotional, non-neutral, language in your draft. I've underlined the problematic language:
 * - her exceptional creativity and unwavering determination earned her the esteemed recognition as an exemplary role model
 * - same prestigious prize
 * ''- recognition of her outstanding contributions, she achieved the esteemed Pulse Award in 2021, securing the distinguished title
 * ''- assumed the prestigious role of serving as an ambassador for the renowned brand Maltina, sharing this esteemed position with the esteemed personalities
 * - Tomike further solidified her prominence in the realm of brand endorsements by entering into a valuable partnership with Pastel Africa
 * If you want to start writing Wikipedia articles, you must very closely read the following policies, otherwise your articles will keep being rejected:
 * - Manual of Style
 * - Neutral point of view
 * - Manual of Style/Words to watch
 * Hope that helps,  Qcne  (talk)  10:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, would read and remodified the article Davdotfam (talk) 10:56, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is much point, @Davdotfam. As I have said the draft was rejected. If an article has been rejected, it cannot be submitted for review again. You can appeal directly to @Greenman.
 * However, five separate reviewers have looked at this draft over the last 13 months and it has been declined each time. I think you are fighting a loosing battle with this draft and would really recommend writing about something else. Sorry.  Qcne  (talk)  11:00, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

10:37, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Kwaro1
The articles has a reliable source so how could I improve the article. Kwaro1 (talk) 10:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Kwaro1. Unfortunately this article has been Rejected so cannot be considered further. There is nothing you can do. Please have a read of Notability (music) which explains why Dauda, at the moment, does not pass the notability threshold.  Qcne  (talk)  10:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

10:52, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Prernamina
could not find tool bar for adding references Prernamina (talk) 10:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Prernamina. If you are using the new Visual Editor to edit Wikipedia, have a look at Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1 which explains how to use it.
 * If you are using the Source Editor, read Help:Referencing for beginners instead.
 * Hope that helps,  Qcne  (talk)  10:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

12:17, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Fullyloaded98
I don't understand why the article has been rejected? What do I need to do in order for the article to be published on Wikipedia? Fullyloaded98 (talk) 12:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Fullyloaded98: as it says in the decline notice, this draft is not adequately supported by reliable sources. You list (without actually citing) only two sources under 'References', one of which (IMDb) is not considered reliable. In any article, but especially so in articles on living people, every material statement and anything potentially contentious must be clearly supported by inline citation to a reliable published source. See WP:REFB for advice on correct referencing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:22, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok no problem I add references Kwaro1 (talk) 12:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: I also should have added that the sources cited must also establish that the subject is notable enough to warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. Usually this requires sources which satisfy the WP:GNG notability standard. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

12:42, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Jonnycc23
I am creating a creating an Article for the new Windsor & Eton Football club, which was first rejected for not having good enough references. I have now added multiple references. It was then rejected for not being Notable enough, but the previous incarnations of Windsor (& Eton) Football club all have articles therefore surely this is notable enough, otherwise it is inconsistent? Jonnycc23 (talk) 12:42, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Jonnycc23. Firstly your article was only declined, not rejected. Rejected would mean you wouldn't be able to resubmit for review.
 * Sports clubs need to pass the Notability threshold. This criteria has gotten more strict as time has gone on, so previous articles which may have been created might no longer pass this threshold. Wikipedia has millions of articles so it is difficult to check that all of them pass!
 * Your first source can't count towards notability as it is a press release. Your fourth source is better, but really we'd need to see at least three sources that discuss the club in detail and provide analysis/interpretation.
 * I wonder if it might be Too soon for this club to have an article. It may work better as a separate section under Windsor & Eton F.C. (1892)? Not an expert on sports though, so those are just my musings.  Qcne  (talk)  12:58, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I’ve added a number of different sources now, which provide more detail.
 * I disagree that it would be better as a separate section under Windsor & Eton F.C. (1892) as it is a completely new club, and could be likely to cause confusion. Jonnycc23 (talk) 12:47, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

19:41, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Kikipepper
Need Assistance for Approving a Biographical Article

I am currently creating a biographical article on Todd K. Rosengart, a notable figure in Cardiothoracic Surgery, among his accomplishment is performing the world's first viral-based gene cardiac transfer procedure and medical entrepreneurship, founder of vitals.com. While I have taken care to ensure all facts presented are accurate and appropriately sourced, I'm finding it challenging to meet the Wikipedia guidelines for biographies. I've reviewed the relevant guidelines and tried my best to follow them, but I seem to be missing something. Therefore, I am seeking for assistance from experienced Wikipedians to review my draft and provide feedback on how I might improve it to meet Wikipedia's standards for bios.

The draft can be found here: Draft:Todd K. Rosengart

Thank you, Kikipepper (talk) 19:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Most of your sources are to search results of a patent office, and large portions of the draft are unsourced. Any article about this doctor should not just document their accomplishments, it should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about the doctor. You said "among his accomplishment is performing the world's first viral-based gene cardiac transfer procedure" but that statement in the draft is not sourced.
 * Are you associated with this doctor in some way? 331dot (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

20:19, 27 July 2023 review of submission by Marigonnahalilaj
I wrote the article based on what I found online for the store. I didn't do it to advertise the company in this case and i am not using wiki for advertising. I would like to know what is triggering it as advertise and how should I proceed? Marigonnahalilaj (talk) 20:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * , the language in the draft is overtly promotional, and promotional activity is not permitted on Wikipedia. Please read about the neutral point of view and the notability guideline for businesses. Cullen328 (talk) 20:25, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Language like and  is utterly inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. Cullen328 (talk) 20:30, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

20:35, 27 July 2023 review of submission by MargaretZ26
Hi! Wondering how to better source this, as a lot of information is being pulled from the same source (the curriculum vitae). Any tips in general would be great! MargaretZ26 (talk) 20:35, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed the link, it needs "Draft:". 331dot (talk) 20:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * What is your association with Mr. Flesher? You claimed the professionally taken image of him as your own work, meaning that you personally took the image and that he posed for you.
 * Your draft seems to just summarize his official biographies from organizations he is affiliated with. Any article about him must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about him and what makes him a notable person as defined by Wikipedia. Large portions of the draft are unsourced. For example, you say "Flesher has written extensively on ethical issues in accounting and has contributed to the discussion on ethical behavior and decision-making in the profession" but don't provide a source for that claim or describe what makes this important.  Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 20:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I am a research assistant for CWRU. My supervisor wants me to upload/update the profiles of accounting scholars. I must have uploaded the photo incorrectly because I didn't take it, so I will take it down. If I figure out who took the photo, I will re-upload it with the correct information. MargaretZ26 (talk) 02:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * . You must make the Paid contributions disclosure with your next edit. This is mandatory and non-negotiable. Then, read When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia, and share that page with your supervisor. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

21:38, 27 July 2023 review of submission by 2C0F:2A80:9:C610:F192:9B7:126F:16FA
Please i need assistance on Draft:Coker Close Series. 2C0F:2A80:9:C610:F192:9B7:126F:16FA (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further at this time. 331dot (talk) 22:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)