Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 June 28

= June 28 =

Mainspace article Credit union league has been split to AfC instead of to mainspace Credit union central?
A split of Credit union league into two articles, Credit union league and Credit union central, was proposed at Talk:Credit union league. With no other discussion having taken place, one user decided to take it upon themselves to remove the "credit union central" content from the original mainspace article and dump it not into a new mainspace article proposed for credit union central but into AfC as Draft:Credit union central. That's a very bizarre move, as it dumps valid content out of mainspace and into a process which currently has a backlog of more than four thousand articles, with whomever made this decision having done nothing to work on the page, submit it or do anything with it other than wait for the six-month limit to run out so that the information is quietly deleted through effectively a back-door mechanism. I have no idea what this person is trying to do, but the content should never have been misrouted to AfC and needs to be put back to mainspace - either by reverting the "split" or by moving the content to its intended location, credit union central. 66.102.87.40 (talk) 02:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The best way to fix this (imho) is to revert the article to before the split was done and then do it properly. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:39, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

04:41, 28 June 2023 review of submission by Amiso072
I don't get the reason why my page is rejected Amiso072 (talk) 04:41, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @amiso072: you're trying to write an advert for your company. lettherebedarklight晚安 05:15, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

06:11, 28 June 2023 review of submission by Ajayraj890
I want to check whether if this article is ready for a review or not. Ajayraj890 (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ajayraj890: I'm not sure what you mean; you have already submitted this, and it has been declined. You need to address the decline reason(s) before submitting again. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. I understand why the reviewers declined this. First reason was no context and grammer mistakes. The second reason was, the reviewer couldn't find the name 'Siege of Tovala' in any historic events. So i re edited the article again improving the grammer and context. And i moved the page into 'Chanda Sahib conquest of Travancore' which is more suitable name for the event. Now i want to make sure if it is ready for a review submission. Hope you understand what i meant. Ajayraj890 (talk) 08:21, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * We're not here for pre-review reviews. If you feel you have addressed the concerns of the reviewers, you should resubmit. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Ajayraj890 (talk) 08:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

13:17:38, 28 June 2023 review of draft by Rastinrah
Rastinrah (talk) 13:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * What is your question, @Rastinrah? You have submitted this draft, and it is awaiting review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * please review this draft
 * Im edit this Rastinrah (talk) 13:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I want you to check the item manually and publish it if possible Rastinrah (talk) 13:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Rastinrah, your article has been accepted.  Qcne  (talk)  13:41, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

14:29, 28 June 2023 review of submission by Cellardoor99
Newbie here struggling to know how to get this page appproved (my first wiki attempt!). I think I am undertsanding secondary sources vs primary sources. However after some chats in the live help I undertsand different criteria need to be met for living people and they suggested getting input from an "experienced co-editor". I hope I am in the right place here. Apoligies if not. For the article there is in my mind not doubt of the notoriety being an acomplished auhor/scholar of 50 years which is shown by University pages and published books. But seems to be somehting else lacking. I did find another Wiki referencing the Prof. Award from 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._George_Grierson_Award grateful for any pointers or advice as I am a bit lost being new to this...thank you so much! Cellardoor99 (talk) 14:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Cellardoor99.
 * Your draft article only has three sources- two are Primary sources (the staff page and the interview) and one is User-generated content (Goodreads). That isn't enough to establish notability unfortunately.
 * George may indeed be notable, but you need to find independent, third party sources that cover him in detail, and then summarise them in your own words. That should make up the content of your article draft. Note that the sources must be:
 * - Reliable: Your article should rely on strong, reliable sources that are published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts (such as a date of birth), but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis or interpretation.
 * - Independent: Your sources should be independent of the subject, for example not self-published or from the subject's own website.
 * - Show significant coverage: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. The sources should provide in-depth information or analysis about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.
 * - From multiple places: You should find at least three separate reliable, independent, secondary sources that discuss your subject.
 * - Not original research: Wikipedia articles should summarise existing knowledge about a subject, not present new research. This means you should avoid drawing your own conclusions or analyses from the sources. Stick to summarising what the sources say in a neutral tone.
 * Hope that helps,  Qcne  (talk)  14:41, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * this is super helpful thank you! i'll work on this to make sure it meets the requirements before re-submitting. thank you again! Cellardoor99 (talk) 14:53, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

15:29:40, 28 June 2023 review of draft by LisaLena123
LisaLena123 (talk) Hello, I am having difficulty understanding the errors in the Wikipedia Page being created. I am a new editor and cannot seem to publish my first big page. LisaLena123 (talk)

LisaLena123 (talk) 15:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @LisaLena123.
 * Aaliyna does not meet the Notability threshold at this time. Only people who meet that notability criteria can have an article. That page explains what we mean by "notability": basically Aaliya needs to be discussed in detail in multiple independent reliable secondary sources.
 * If you cannot find multiple independent reliable secondary sources then I am afraid that Aaliya would not meet the notability threshold and therefore cannot have a Wikipedia article at this time.
 * Finally, please note that if you are connected in any way to Aaliya then you must declare your Conflict of interest. We also strongly discourage you from creating an article about yourself!
 * Hope that helps,  Qcne  (talk)  15:33, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

16:26, 28 June 2023 review of submission by Sherbn
I don't understand what the point is. An article about historical tradition is presented. Basic information is presented. Sources are indicated. Sherbn (talk) 16:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Sherbn: the problem is, reading that draft, one has to work pretty hard to understand what it's actually about. For starters, the beginning of the draft doesn't clearly specify the subject, establish the context, or tell the reader what makes the subject noteworthy. Please see WP:MOSLEAD for advice on writing the lead section.
 * The referencing is also problematic. There are paragraphs without any citations. Conversely, there are orphan citations that don't seem to support anything. Then there are various links and external sources with non-English titles that don't indicate what their relevance is. See WP:REFB for advice on referencing, and also WP:ORDER for advice on, and correct ordering of, the appendices and end matter. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

19:04, 28 June 2023 review of submission by Sussteve226
I need help i got flaged while i was editing and i lost my work Sussteve226 (talk) 19:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Sussteve226.
 * Your article draft was not suitable for Wikipedia. It might be worth reading Your first article which gives you the dos and don'ts of creating an article, and Five pillars which detail the fundamental principles of Wikipedia.
 * Please also read What Wikipedia is not which explains that Wikipedia is not a filehost to store your personal texts or images.
 * We already have an article about the Dell Inspiron here: Dell Inspiron 1525. If you would like to make edits to it, please go ahead but remember they must be constructive and sourced.
 * Hope that helps,  Qcne  (talk)  19:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

21:51, 28 June 2023 review of submission by LegalizeAnythingMuppets
I’m going to need editors to help improve on the page in order to make it resubmitted. LegalizeAnythingMuppets (talk) 21:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * We aren't here to be co-authors; if you would like to resubmit the draft, you need to do the work. Do you have questions about what you need to do? 331dot (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)