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= June 4 =

05:44, 4 June 2023 review of submission by Krishnakumar1216
May I know why my article did not get accepted?? Krishnakumar1216 (talk) 05:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Krishnakumar1216: your draft Draft:Kalamandalam Sheeba Krishnakumar was deleted as promotional. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

07:33, 4 June 2023 review of submission by Syed Laique Haider
i want this article not to be deleted, plz because i have first created this and publish directly and now i just got notification on my user account that my article is rejected. Syed Laique Haider (talk) 07:33, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Syed Laique Haider: nobody has requested deletion, as far as I can see. The draft has been rejected, however, as you simply resubmitted it without any attempt to address the reasons for the earlier decline. As it stands, the draft remains entirely unreferenced, which is completely unacceptable for an article on a living person.
 * This being the case, what is your question? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Your rejected draft of a biography of a living person is entirely unreferenced and therefore fails the core content policy of Verifiability. Wikipedia is not for promotion. Please try to promote this person on other websites, not on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 07:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

10:37, 4 June 2023 review of submission by Cavanaughs
I added a few additional sources to this article and I was going to submit it for mainspace but I don't see the button based on how the notice at the top of the article is structured Cavanaughs (talk) 10:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Cavanaughs: this draft has been resubmitted already, and is awaiting review.
 * That said, the sources aren't enough to establish notability per WP:GNG. The first source is primary and non-independent. The other two are clearly based on some publicity materials, and in any case are identical save for the last para, therefore count as one. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

12:19:04, 4 June 2023 review of draft by LMW-edit
Seeking advice on uploading an image of William Sangster to my draft article. The Photo credit is State Library of Victoria. The original is in an archive box and not available online. I have received a copy of the photo from the Great Grandson of William Sangster. What steps do I need to take to ensure I am including the photo without copyright violation. Thanks LMW-edit (talk) 12:19, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @LMW-edit: this is more a question for the copyright experts at WP:CQ, but just to say that having "received a copy of the photo" from someone says, in and of itself, nothing about whether you have the right to upload that photo and release it into the public domain. The file upload wizard (WP:FUW) may provide some pointers as to whether or not you're allowed to upload this image; otherwise I suggest asking at the copyright questions help desk. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Images are not relevant to the draft approval process; I'd suggest that you first focus on getting the draft approved. 331dot (talk) 21:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

16:52:44, 4 June 2023 review of draft by Suntooooth
My draft was declined due to lack of proof of notability. I was wondering if a source like this (quote: "Florence Dudley say: 'Wanter play bridge?' Mickey Flynn say: 'Come on. What you lose?'", under the heading "Movie Squaw Tells All to Dorothy") would count as a secondary source and not just a passing mention? All other sources I can find at the moment are just listing her as a cast member in one film or another.

Suntooooth (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Suntooooth: your options for demonstrating notability are either to provide multiple sources that meet the WP:GNG guideline (which neither of the two sources currently cited do), or to explain how this person satisfies the WP:NACTOR standard (and TBH, there's nothing to suggest they do). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi in general articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See WP:N) which in most cases requires significant coverage (WP:SIGCOV) in multiple independent (WP:INDY) reliable sources (WP:RS). For this case also see WP:NACTOR. Was she a significant actor in any of those films? The BFI reference does not even give a description for 40% of the roles and the many of the rest sound like supporting roles "witness", "secretary", "woman", "chorus girl in café" etc. As for the source you give it has nothing about her just that she said "Wanter play bridge?" which is hardly notable. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)