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= March 21 =

00:11:35, 21 March 2023 review of submission by Gaita777
I cannot understand why my contribution was not approved. I did my research and incorporated various references and sources to enhance the quality of the page;however, my contribution was declined. What else should I change to be approved?

Kind regards, Apostolos Gaita777 (talk) 00:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Gaita777: the referencing is a bit of a mess, to put it mildly; please see WP:REFB and WP:ILC for advice on how to create inline citations correctly. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:23, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You may also consider creating a page for the player on the Greek Language Wikipedia. (el.wikipedia.org).Naraht (talk) 14:22, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much 2A02:587:3286:C500:6087:A566:DFD0:365F (talk) 19:45, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

01:06:22, 21 March 2023 review of submission by ZkXBotha374
I am a contributor for Samoan and Tongan wikipedia articles. I am creating profiles for Tonga's senior and notable figures of which Sione Ikamafana is one. Tonga is a small third world country and articles are limited. The submissions being declined is disputed. There are far less notable figures of Tongan decent who have been published. I want this to be published so I can move on with updating the Tongan monarchy, Samoan heads of stated and Fijian nobility.

ZkXBotha374 (talk) 01:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

01:50:36, 21 March 2023 review of submission by Olivierg13
Why is it not good enough for wikipedia Olivierg13 (talk) 01:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Olivierg13 because it is completely unsourced and written in an informal tone. Since he has only just begun his career I doubt there is any Reliable sources which discuss the topic in any sort of depth. There is almost no doubt they do not meet any of the criteria within the music criteria. This is an encyclopedia on notable topics not a listing site for anything everywhere. The draft has been rejected and will not be considered any further. You are probably better trying to promote them through social media. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 02:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ because that guy is me and that is the reliable source about him i am him and also he is very popular and his career started in 2022 when he sung a album with jayvstheworld and lil fear he rapped the album "oh fuck" which was about girls from college and a diss on lil fear. SO yes his career began earlier and he deserves respect and I have all the inofrmation about him. Thank you mcmatter. Olivierg13 (talk) 12:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Olivierg13: thank you for confirming that you are indeed the subject of this draft, as has been suspected. Now please read WP:AUTOBIO for all the reasons why you should not be writing about yourself.
 * Also, when McMatter points out that there are no reliable sources cited, we mean published and independent secondary sources, as explained in the WP:GNG notability guideline. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok i read it and it says that it is only strongly discouraged and will be edited mercilessly so If there is any bias you can edit it because I talk about myself at a neutral standard for future people to learn about the upcoming souncloud rapper. Thank you and I hope to see my page up soon. Olivierg13 (talk) 15:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Olivierg13 I see you are blocked, but, writing an autobiography is, as you have read, strongly discouraged.  But having independent, published, reliable sources for the information written is an absolute requirement. David10244 (talk) 05:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

11:37:02, 21 March 2023 review of submission by Adam Odufuye
Adam Odufuye (talk) 11:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC) Please i would love to know how to restore the deleted profile so necessary changes can be made


 * @Adam Odufuye: you don't specify which of your deleted drafts you refer to, but I think it's fair to say that neither of them will be restored as they were both deleted for being promotional. My advice to you is, stop trying to promote a topic/-s, as that won't get you anywhere, except possibly sanctioned. Time to find something else to write about? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

13:49:41, 21 March 2023 review of draft by 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:3C:69AD:5DBA:CC3D
I don't understand why my article draft, DKOldies has been declined. Here is the sources i used that are independent of the subject. SVG - 2 times Bloomberg - 1 time Game Rant - 2 times New Altas - 1 time Complex - 1 time Kotaku - 1 time Mashable - 1 time PCMag - 2 times Business Insider - 1 time

If you want me to remove the references from the DKOldies websites, that would be fine. But i believe this is a perfect mixture sources independent from the subject and sources of the subject. If you want me to expand more on the article then i can. 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:3C:69AD:5DBA:CC3D (talk) 13:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, dkoldies references on the article are only 3. google maps is one for the source that the Headquarters is in Morgantown. 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:3C:69AD:5DBA:CC3D (talk) 13:51, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Even if the sources are independent and reliable (and I would argue some of the ones you've cited aren't), that's not enough – the coverage they provide of the subject needs to be also significant in scope and extent; now, all but two of the sources provide passing or no mentions. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've understand. 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:3C:69AD:5DBA:CC3D (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

15:15:01, 21 March 2023 review of submission by Toniventure
It's my first time adding the biography of someone on Wikipedia. when I uploaded my draft for review it was not accepted. the reasons were not enough references. I have added more now and would like assistance for approval.

Toniventure (talk) 15:15, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Toniventure: slight correction, this draft wasn't declined for lack of referencing per se, but rather lack of notability demonstrable through referencing. Per WP:GNG, we need to see significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. The draft cites no such source, as all the sources are just routine business reporting covering her appointment. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction, so how can i infuse the multiple independent and reliable secondary sources? Kindly assist Toniventure (talk) 10:45, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toniventure You need to find, and cite, sources that write about her, and about what she has done, and why she is important. David10244 (talk) 06:31, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have included those write ups now. Hopefully it will be approved now Toniventure (talk) 05:37, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

16:00:55, 21 March 2023 review of draft by Lomap123El
Lomap123El (talk) 16:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lomap123El: you don't ask a question, but just to say that you've not submitted your draft for review yet... and if you were to, it wouldn't be accepted, as it stands. Please see WP:GNG for information what makes a subject notable, and how to demonstrate that, as well as WP:YFA for advice on how to create an article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:07, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

18:11:00, 21 March 2023 review of draft by StaneJurca
I'm sorry, I have my article in Slovenian but it seems that language of text is set to English.

This is my first article and I'm not familiar with Wikipedia article editor. Can you help me changing the language of text to Slovenian, please?

Stane Jurca (talk) 18:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @StaneJurca: what do you mean by "changing the language of text to Slovenian"?
 * Just to clarify, this is the English-language Wikipedia, and we can only accept articles in English. If you wish to contribute to the Slovenian Wikipedia, you need to go here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:42, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

19:08:37, 21 March 2023 review of submission by Vishalyadavdbmindia
Someone said that this article looks more like an advertisement i want to know why this looks like an advertisement and what necessary changes i can make to get it approved.

Vishalyadavdbmindia (talk) 19:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Vishalyadavdbmindia: the draft is littered with peacock words like "significant", "important", "passionate", etc. Furthermore, most of it is unreferenced, suggesting this is you writing to promote the organisation, rather than summarising what independent sources have said about it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:03, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Vishalyadavdbmindia: the draft is littered with peacock words like "significant", "important", "passionate", etc. Furthermore, most of it is unreferenced, suggesting this is you writing to promote the organisation, rather than summarising what independent sources have said about it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:03, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

21:35:28, 21 March 2023 review of draft by Lisaberm
The reviewer said he was guest star but all his roles are starring roles. Not sure how to reply to him. I've fixed his other suggestions.

Lisaberm (talk) 21:35, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * What is your question, @Lisaberm? The draft has been resubmitted and is awaiting review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A criticism the reviewer left for me was that the roles my article actor played were all only Guest Star but that is not true. Most of his roles are Starring roles. How do I remedy this incorrect assumption on the part of the decision maker for accepting my article?  Lisaberm (talk) 16:03, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Lisaberm: you remedy this by producing evidence to support your case. Although I must say it does very much look like most of them are minor roles, at least in the few films that are notable enough to have their own articles.
 * That being said, the draft was declined for being inadequately referenced, and failing to demonstrate the subject's notability, not for the importance or otherwise of his roles. Those are the real issues you need to address (and, I might add, haven't yet). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)