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= May 18 =

06:52, 18 May 2023 review of submission by TheUmayr
I am just utterly disappointed and devastated at the same time. The reason given for the declination of my article is completely baseless and far from the reality. I am being told that this is just like a "fanpage", I seriously didn't expect that Wikipedian Reviewer would be so immature and arrogant. The information that I presented in my article is completely verified and for the reference, I attached the number of highly dominant media and government websites which proved my fact to be trustworthy and correct. This reviewer don't know the hardwork and the time taken for the research but he just came and declined in a very immature arrogant way, which has devastated and depressed to the heights. Remember this thing, the reality is reality and it cannot be changed no matter what, the personality I wrote about, he was jailed for 9 months and was kept in the most atrocious interrogating centres called PAPA I and PAPA II, he was thrown along with the dead bodies. And that too on the baseless and fabricated allegations which completely proved to be wrong and their own highly ranked district officer came to rescue him. And now tell me how would you define it if you are at my place? Will you support the inhumane atrocities of those interrogating centres, or will you tell the truth that Abdul Gani Naseem was the one who faced this inhumane atrocities creep policy of the government. Does Wikipedia teach us to stand with the oppressor to make it look "Neutral" ? Are these the teachings here? If it is so I am leaving with a devastated self of mine.

Always Yours, Sanai Umair TheUmayr (talk) 06:52, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , I assume that you are talking about Draft:Abdul Gani Naseem. That draft violates the Neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. It will never be accepted into this encyclopedia in its current form, no matter how bitterly you complain. Wikipedia is not the place to right great wrongs. There are plenty of websites that welcome advocacy. Wikipedia is not among those websites. Cullen328 (talk) 07:04, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You did a good job, but remember to make it just like a topic in an encyclopedia. Not an essay in 7th grade (although you would get an A+) but an encyclopedia. Petjayso (talk) 22:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

06:56:35, 18 May 2023 review of submission by Maaargaritka
I have a question, I have written an article about digital ecology and I have made a lot of changes to it, however it keeps showing a flag that the article does not have an encyclopaedic style. Should this flag disappear at which point the system automatically decides that it is the correct article and I have to keep making changes until it does? Or do I have to wait until someone from the moderators reads the article and removes this flag? If so, how long is the waiting time for this? i How do I contact such a person? thank you!

Maaargaritka (talk) 06:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Maaargaritka: this isn't an AfC issue anymore now that the article has been published, so you may wish to direct any future such queries eg. to the Teahouse. But since you've asked, no, this tag (in fact, pretty much all tags, AFAIK) won't disappear automatically, it must be manually removed. Anyone can remove it, incl. yourself, once the highlighted issue has been sufficiently addressed. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:04, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

08:41, 18 May 2023 review of submission by Hobobob
FYI - Dave Lewis is underground, like John Evans or Chris Torrance. He avoids the mainstream, although you might also say they avoid him. He is out of favour with Literature Wales because he had the gall to single-handedly set up the biggest poetry contest in Wales - for that alone he deserves a Wiki page! (You should remember they get millions of pounds a year to do this and haven't.)

As a poet he is one of Wales's best and as a novelist is gaining in reputation. He has done more to help promote Welsh literature over the last 15+ years than anyone I know of yet stil he gets overlooked by the arts 'business' / establishment in our poor third world country.

There are lots of 'newsworthy' links in the article, although maybe I've added too much info on top of that? I have only done so as some pages I notice you call stubs and demand more info.?

When I see other very 'ordinary' writers and poets from Wales with their own page I laugh. I doubt Dave Lewis will ever 'sell out' to these quangos but for his groundbreaking poetry he at least desrves a mention IMHO. But I bow to your greater judgement.

Cheers Rob :) Hobobob (talk) 08:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Hobobob: thanks for all that. Did you have a question you wanted to ask?
 * If Dave can surface from the underground and 'sell out' enough to get himself featured in independent and reliable secondary sources (don't have to be 'mainstream', whatever that means exactly), then he may one day warrant an article. Meanwhile, keep fighting the good fight! -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:35, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * All the sources are 'independent and reliable' but who knows what he'll be up to time goes on. Cheers anyway. Hobobob (talk) 10:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

19:08, 18 May 2023 review of submission by TheWilliamGibson
Unsure why my submission is bein rejected. I am not affiliated with the company I am submitting. Is there a way to prove that I am not affiliated? TheWilliamGibson (talk) 19:08, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You can't prove a negative, but you didn’t pick the company at random to edit about. The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further, because, whether you are affiliated with the company or not, the draft is contrary to our purpose. 331dot (talk) 22:49, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It is not humanely possible for it to be "your" submission. The draft was rejected 15 minutes before your account was created. aaronneallucas (talk) 02:02, 19 May 2023 (UTC)