Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 May 23

= May 23 =

02:09, 23 May 2023 review of submission by Rapmarocedit
Hi, I had submitted a detailed draft, please how to move drave intro page ? Rapmarocedit (talk) 02:09, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Rapmarocedit the draft is declined. Please read through all the information in the decline message and the reviewer's comments.  S0091 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

05:19:50, 23 May 2023 review of draft by DoOnlyGoodEveryday
Being new to the Wikipedia community, I would greatly value your input and guidance on whether the article meets the necessary standards for submission. Your expertise and experience would be immensely helpful in improving the article and ensuring its suitability for publication.

DoOnlyGoodEveryday (talk) 05:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @DoOnlyGoodEveryday: I'm afraid the draft could not be accepted, as it's currently written. For notability per WP:GNG, we need to see significant coverage of the subject in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources, but none of the three sources cited meets this standard.
 * Also, the last three sections of the draft are entirely unreferenced, raising the question where is all that information coming from? Please note that everything you write must be verifiable from reliable published sources – in fact, what you write should only really be a summary (in your own words) of what such sources have said. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:40, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

11:13, 23 May 2023 review of submission by Maormer
Hello. The article I proposed was rejected for the third time. Last time, the reason for the refusal was the lack of reliable sources, and from the discussion with the moderators, I determined which source was in doubt, and replaced it with a more reliable one. To all the others (as far as I understand) there are no complaints. I would like to clarify what exactly I am doing wrong, and whether it makes sense to edit the article or it is better to abandon it. If some sources are in doubt, I can replace them, if some facts seem inappropriate, I will try to remove them. Thank you in advance for your help Maormer (talk) 11:13, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

14:07:20, 23 May 2023 review of draft by DanielCro
I tried to publish this article earlier, but the article was moved to draft with the explanation that it is not yet ready for public publication on Wikipedia and that I need to edit it to comply with Wikipedia rules, especially regarding the neutrality of the article and reliable sources of information. I have been working on this article to improve it and meet the wikipedia criteria for publication. Can someone check my article before I send it for review and tell me their opinion, is it good enough to be published on Wikipedia or does it need to be further improved and if so where and how? I would like to point out that I could not find English sources (only Croatian) for this article, because it is a local Croatian organization, important for public life in Croatia. Thank you very much for your help and understanding. I really appreciate that DanielCro

DanielCro (talk) 14:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC) DanielCro (talk) 14:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)DanielCro


 * @DanielCro: "Can someone check my article before I send it for review" is another way of saying can someone review my draft now. We don't really provide pre-reviews, because they are pretty much the same thing as actual reviews. The draft will be checked when you submit it for review, and when a reviewer decides to review it.
 * What you can do already now (eg. on the draft talk page) is to highlight the three strongest sources in terms of the WP:GNG notability guideline, namely: being independent and reliable secondary sources, and providing significant coverage of the organisation in question. This will help the reviewers, especially given that you have cited quite a large number of non-English sources (which is perfectly acceptable, just makes the review that much more laborsome for non-Crotian-speakers). Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice. What do you think about the text in the article itself? Is it now more in line with Wikipedia rules, from a neutral point of view and not in a promotional style? Is there anything else I can improve in this part? DanielCro (talk) 14:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

14:43, 23 May 2023 review of submission by 2600:4040:9E66:CF00:4929:1E18:8311:35FB
I launched my multi-award wining publication in 2012. I have featured exclusive stories on Hollywoods top stars such as Scarlett Johansson, Hailee Steinfeld, Joey King, Benicio del Toro, Jennifer Hudson, Regina King; my publication has been on CNN, CBS, FOX, NBC, etc. I have been trying to get a Wikipedia page for AS IF Magazine, yet my request has been denied. I am definitely a legitimate company. What have I been doing wrong to get a denial? 2600:4040:9E66:CF00:4929:1E18:8311:35FB (talk) 14:43, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have pages, it has articles. I'm having difficulty finding your draft(the link here does not go to it) but your legitimacy is not in doubt, and not the issue. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves and what they do or their products. Notability is not inherited by association. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Not every topic merits a Wikipedia article, it depends on the sources. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself or its products, or in its routine business activities, we are interested in what sources unaffiliated with it choose to say is important/significant/influential about the topic. 331dot (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Firstly, if you have a user account (I'm guessing ?), then please log into it.
 * Secondly, make the mandatory COI / paid editing disclosure, as has been requested on your (TShoan's) talk page.
 * Then you can request that the G13-deleted draft Draft:AS IF Magazine be returned to you for editing.
 * Once you're done editing, you are not allowed to publish the article yourself, but must submit it for review via the AfC process.
 * Let me know if I wrongly connected any of the dots here, or if you have other questions. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

16:27, 23 May 2023 review of submission by Merry chrus
I’m making new article for people who need more detail what is the game about. Merry chrus (talk) 16:27, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Merry chrus: you don't ask a question, but this draft has been rejected and won't therefore be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

20:22, 23 May 2023 review of submission by Moxy Rock
FULL DISCLOSURE: Very inexperienced Wiki creator here. Can another wiki user collaborate with me on this article while it is in Draft stage, as it is now? If so, how would they find the Draft after they login with their own credentials?

I have a thousand other questions. Is this the right place to come for future questions of all sorts?

Thank you Moxy Rock (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Moxy Rock I left you a message on your talk page with some hopefully helpful links about editing Wikipedia. Sorry to say, but it is unlikely anyone will collaborate on the draft because we are all volunteers and largely already stretched thin.  If I misunderstood your question, let me know.  Either way, I suggest reading the notability guidelines for musicians and if you have specific questions about that as it relates to the draft, you can come here.  For general editing questions, the better place is the Teahouse.  S0091 (talk) 20:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

21:34, 23 May 2023 review of submission by Bcampbellisthebest
why did my page get declined? Bcampbellisthebest (talk) 21:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The reason was left by the reviewer. 331dot (talk) 21:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find the reason in the message that said it was declined it only said if I wanted to now why to come here and ask why. Bcampbellisthebest (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You removed the reason, it says "This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia. Please use the sandbox for any editing tests, but do not submit for review until you have an article that you want reviewed for inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you". I restored it as prior reviews must remain on the draft. 331dot (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)