Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 May 24

= May 24 =

06:24, 24 May 2023 review of submission by HollyNaylor
Thank you in advance for your kind assistance. I have had my draft rejected twice and I am eager to correct any errors and publish this correctly. I have updated the structure of the submission, removed any potential peacock terms and followed up on all the points raised in the previous 2 reviews. Please kindly assist to provide specific details on any areas which require improvement and would enable the draft to be approved. HollyNaylor (talk) 06:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @HollyNaylor: you're effectively asking for someone to review your draft, but the way the system works is you have to submit it; a reviewer will then one day pick it up to conduct a review, and provide you with feedback if necessary.
 * One thing I can tell you immediately, though, is that you need to demonstrate that the subject meets the special WP:NACADEMIC notability standard, because the sources are all close primary ones and therefore do not establish WP:GNG notability at all. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

06:38:37, 24 May 2023 review of draft by DoOnlyGoodEveryday
I am unsure if the article meets the necessary standards or if it requires further information or improvement. If there are any specific areas require additional information or clarification, please let me know.

DoOnlyGoodEveryday (talk) 06:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You haven't yet submitted it for a review, we don't do pre-review reviews. When reviewed, the reviewer will leave feedback if they don't accept it. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

08:10, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Willardthe dump
Why, you can search it in YouTube, I like watching his/her videos. Willardthe dump (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You liking this person's videos is not on the notability criteria for web content. You offer no independent reliable sources at all to summarize about this person, a must for any article, but especially for articles about living people, where all information must be sourced.  This is why your draft was rejected, and will not be considered further.  Not every "YouTuber"  merits a Wikipedia article- the vast majority do not. If independent sources write about this person and describe their importance/significance/influence, please offer them.  Your own opinion is insufficient.  If you just want to tell the world about this person or their videos, you should do that on social media. 331dot (talk) 08:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

09:38, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Easyvic
I got the comment "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources" on my submission. It is my first article creation and I am wondering what the reviewer meant by this comment after referencing all sources of the information in the article.

Kindly advise if you have useful information about this.

Walter Easyvic (talk) 09:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Easyvic: there is a lot of unreferenced content in your draft. What source gives her DOB? What about the info in the 'Personal life' section? The citations in the 'Early life and education' section look like references, but they just point to the institutions' website home pages, and thus support nothing in this draft. In articles on living people, every material statement, anything potentially contentious, and all private personal and family details must be clearly supported by inline citations to reliable published sources, or else removed. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:54, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, many thanks for the clarification. I will attempt to revise the draft and hopefully get a positive nod this time around.
 * Cheers Easyvic (talk) 10:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

10:37, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Tayostephen
I would like to find out why this post is rejected. Thank you Tayostephen (talk) 10:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tayostephen: because it is entirely promotional, cringingly so. Not to mention that it is unreferenced, which is wholly unacceptable for an article on a living person. Furthermore, it seems to consist of copyvio or closely paraphrased content. For all these reasons, I will ask that it is deleted. Thank you for flagging it up. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

11:49:54, 24 May 2023 review of draft by Newlywo
Hello, can someone please explain why the review is taking so long?.. I am referring to Draft:Zvi Landsman

Newlywo (talk) 11:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Newlywo: I was going to say that it is only a month since your most recent submission, and we have nearly 5,000 drafts to review, not just yours; that's why it's taking time. However, it was such an obvious decline that I've gone ahead and done that. The 'Biography' and 'Personal life' sections are completely unreferenced, as is the DOB. Please read and understand the guidelines regarding articles on living people at WP:BLP. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @DoubleGrazing, as for his DOB, it's on his Hebrew page, which source is reliable for his DOB?
 * I placed so many cites and this is a well known film director so if you can explain why and what else shoulf be done, it will be great (I am now editing a little the BIO but by the time you will look it will be probably after I am done). Thanks, Newlywo (talk) 09:49, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Newlywo: what do you mean "on his Hebrew page"; do you mean the Hewbrew Wikipedia article on him? That's completely irrelevant, because a) you cannot expect readers of the English Wikipedia to go hunting for sources on other language versions, and b) in any case you cannot cite Wikipedia as a source on Wikipedia. If the Hebrew article cites a reliable source for the DOB, then what you do is you cite the same source here; otherwise you remove the unsupported DOB from the draft.
 * And on a wider point of referencing articles on living people, my advice is for you to read and understand WP:BLP, and to support this draft adequately before resubmitting. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:55, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing Wow you are fast... yes I meant his Hebrew but I understand what you wrote. I did some editing and added sources. can you please see now? Newlywo (talk) 10:31, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear @DoubleGrazing, I havent heard from you after the changes I made so I will go ahead and resubmit the draft. I waited for you but I dont want to be a bother... Newlywo (talk) 16:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

13:24, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Sun Annie
Hello, may I ask what do I have to do and how can I get this article to be published publicly? Thank you Sun Annie (talk) 13:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Sun Annie: you no longer need to do anything, as I have rejected this draft. What was needed was proof of notability, which despite several chances provided wasn't forthcoming. (Also, most of the content was/is unreferenced, although that wasn't why I rejected this.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

15:01, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Shuffle44
Greetings. I am wondering about next steps for this draft. I reworked the original following its initial rejection, trying to address the source references and tone concerns. I resubmitted the updated version for review but haven't seen any feedback. Are there any additional steps I should take for a second review, or perhaps a step I've missed? I'd welcome your guidance. Thank you! Shuffle44 (talk) 15:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Shuffle44: this draft was reviewed and declined on Apr 11, since then you've edited it but haven't resubmitted it, so currently it is not pending a new review. You need to click on that blue 'resubmit' button to send it for another review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I appreciate your direction and help. Shuffle44 (talk) 16:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

17:12, 24 May 2023 review of submission by Mikeylowe77
The basic facts about Queue-Fair.com are only being registered here as an introduction and will be updated as time goes by especially with our high court case against another company who have a wiki page full of inaccuracies!!! Mikeylowe77 (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles are primarily about what others have written about something, not what organizations have written about themselves. It *might* be possible to write an article if there is any coverage of the High Court Case, but at this point, it isn't even close to being ready.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 24 May 2023 (UTC)