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= May 3 =

05:22, 3 May 2023 review of submission by Kailash29792
This must be moved to the mainspace as the film released on 28 April 2023, and reviews have been added. Though copyright issues have been noted, it was later proven here that it was a reverse copy. Either way, it needs a reviewer so it can be brought to the mainspace. Pinging, , , and. Kailash29792 (talk)  05:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * What's the rush? Thee is NO deadline. Theroadislong (talk) 06:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I know there's no deadline for everything, but this film definitely passes WP:NFF as one of the most notable Indian films of the year. Also, there is a deadline for many things. AfCs often take months to years to tend do, and no one wants that with this. See Talk: Ponniyin Selvan: II for the ongoing crisis. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:17, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I don’t understand why you want to go thru AFC when the mainspace article is already available — DaxServer (mobile) (t · m · c) 07:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Because Onel5969 is relentless to ensure the mainspace article does not exist until the draft is cleared via AfC. Kailash29792 (talk)  07:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please tell @Onel5969 that WP is WP:NOTBURO — DaxServer (t · m · c) 07:45, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * A mainspace article does exist, but wow, the talk page is confusing. Great work by Ivanvector to clean it up. David10244 (talk) 06:23, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ivanvector Ping. David10244 (talk) 06:29, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This was resolved days ago, why am I being pinged? Does something else need to be done? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:37, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

11:43, 3 May 2023 review of submission by 2A01:CB22:1F2:7000:89A6:C1:3F77:822
Hi, I want to talk about the review of submission. Timothee Vassas is famous, he's a popular writer, he wrote a popular serie which call Murder On Mars. In France and US, the book sold over 200,000 copies making Timothee Vassas a well-known and notable author. 2A01:CB22:1F2:7000:89A6:C1:3F77:822 (talk) 11:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah okay. This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Did you have question you wanted to ask? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

15:15, 3 May 2023 review of submission by Ralexa35
My first draft was declined. I do not know this living artist on a personal level though have interviewed them once. I was wondering if anyone can help me identify which sources I'm using that are not considered reliable/if there are any suggestions on what to delete or modify. Ralexa35 (talk) 15:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

16:15, 3 May 2023 review of submission by Biodam
my page was rejected Biodam (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Biodam: that is correct. Did you have a question you wanted to ask? - DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

18:35, 3 May 2023 review of submission by CLAloves1bra!
How am I supposed to cite a podcaster and YouTube content creator? This individual, Andrew Heaton, is very publicly active in these areas (YouTube, Patreon, & Spotify), but a previous comment said that they cannot be used as secondary sources. CLAloves1bra! (talk) 18:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed – the links to YouTube, Spotify, and Patreon are neither secondary nor independent, and together with the link to amazon they should be removed. Have a look at the information in the decline notices, and follow the links, which will tell you what kind of sources are required. --bonadea contributions talk 20:39, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

19:42:33, 3 May 2023 review of draft by Darifi11
I want you to help me complete the page by correcting spelling errors and adding a category

Darifi11 (talk) 19:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There would be little point as the draft has zero independent reliable sources and no indication of notability? Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

20:19, 3 May 2023 review of submission by OctavienC
Hello, I do not understand why my article is 'purely promotional' what do I need to modify? OctavienC (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @OctavienC – two different answers to your question; diametrically opposite, yet both equally true:
 * You would have to modify pretty much everything, because the entire draft reads like a corporate brochure; it's what we call ADMASQ. Also, some of the content seems to have been copied, or at least closely paraphrased, from external sources, further necessitating a rewrite.
 * ... and yet...
 * You needn't modify anything, because this draft has been rejected, and will therefore not be considered further.
 * Finally, you have been asked to disclose your relationship with this subject, but I don't believe you have done so; please do that now. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:20, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

21:25:24, 3 May 2023 review of draft by Biospeleologist
Biospeleologist (talk) 21:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

What is Conflict of Interest? How to Resolve this Issue? Can't someone create a page about their acquaintance? If Yes, how to disclose it?
 * Hi there! Conflict of interest is explained here. It does not automatically mean that an article will be declined, but COI editors typically struggle to write neutrally. They also tend to write an article first, then try and find sources to demonstrate the article is sufficiently notable for inclusion. This article is not. No coverage in secondary sources has been provided. The only possibility is that this person may meet our notability guideline for academics. However I checked their citation index and at only 16, I do not believe this person is sufficiently cited to warrant an article without that person also being covered significantly by secondary sources, so I have declined. Thanks MaxnaCarta (talk) 23:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

22:01, 3 May 2023 review of submission by 75.103.171.145
Sorry, I'm new-ish to Wikipedia and am interested in Tim Sheehy, a businessman and former Navy Seal who is likely to run for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senator in Montana (I read about him in a Politico article). I saw that someone had created a draft with a good deal of info, but it was rejected for insufficient demand or something. So... there is demand. I just wanted to see if there was any other reason for the article's rejection. 75.103.171.145 (talk) 22:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi there. Welcome. Here at Wikipedia, a person, company, or topic must meet our notability criteria for inclusion. In short, significant, in-depth coverage in many sources is generally required. There are exceptions for specific subjects, but I won't go into those here. I consider @Onel5969 was correct in declining this submission. There is some discussion of the article subject (by the way, well done on at least including some references) however these references are not significant enough to warrant an article. If the individual is actually successful in being elected to national office, they will then become notable. Until then, you'd need quite good coverage to substantiate a claim to notability for a possible electoral candidate. Just remember, Wikipedia is not a newspaper or place for anyone ever mentioned by the media to have a profile. This is an encyclopaedia. Based on this, if it was resubmitted, I'd decline it also. Too soon for this person to be included. MaxnaCarta (talk) 23:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)