Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 November 12

= November 12 =

00:56, 12 November 2023 review of submission by LovelyAngel1004
Excuse me, I really need some help with adding more information on the show "Audrey and Friends". The show is so obscure that it has been lost media for a long time. Also, I'm afraid that the article would be deleted after I submit it once again if I don't add enough information. I also want the article on Audrey and Friends to be seen on the web. So could you please help me with that? LovelyAngel1004 (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Maybe try newspaper archives or the Wayback Machine? WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

01:01, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Noseallergy
Hello, Not sure what is needed on this article to get it approved. The instructions are very convoluted, even for a college grad. Please tell me what needs to be fixed, added, removed, etc. in specific detail. Thanks, Noseallergy Noseallergy (talk) 01:01, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You need at least 3 non-promotional sources of in depth coverage that are independent from the subject. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:14, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

03:39, 12 November 2023 review of submission by RBROBERTSON
I am writing to ask for help in addressing the November 3 comments on my submission about Marco Pasanella. The reviewer mentions that I should announce any potential conflict of interest as I am his wife. This seems like a fair request; but exactly how should I do this? In the body of the submission? Also, the reviewer requests the tone to be more neutral and warns against subjective words. I am happy to do so but am wondering what words seem non-objective. I don’t seem to be able to find any adjective that is not backed up by fact. Finally, the comment mentions that the entry should refer to a wide range of “independent reliable published sources.” Sources like Time, Esquire, Architectural Digest, Food & Wine, The Washington Post, NPR and The New York Times seem to meet this standard. I’m not sure what to do here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your guidance!

Best, Rebecca RBROBERTSON (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The NY Times and Esquire sources don't look that bad but it won't let me read them. Maybe someone else can take a look. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 03:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @RBROBERTSON Regarding making a conflict of interest declaration, please post it on your User Page by following the instructions at WP:COI. Let me know if you need any help.
 * The tone is still not great: you need to write in a completely dispassionate way (which is going to be difficult if you are his wife!) and state the facts in a dry, formal tone. The easiest way to structure this is by paraphrasing or summarising the sources directly- don't include any information not stated in a published source.  Qcne  (talk)  12:34, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

04:24, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Palauisagoodcountry
bro how can i make this better Palauisagoodcountry (talk) 04:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * There are no sources. I have no idea what that is supposed to be. It looks made up. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 04:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

06:02, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Aaditya SYY
I have attached all the website articles I have got regarding the movie. And I don't know what else to do. That is why I have resubmitted it the same. I am feeling helpless regarding getting the article accepted by wikipedia. I have given all the references that I got. Please help. Aaditya SYY (talk) 06:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Aaditya SYY: after no fewer than seven earlier declines, this draft was finally rejected as non-notable. If, as you say, better sources do not exist, then there is nothing to be done; this is the end of the road, I'm afraid. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for giving our article a chance 7 times. Is there a chance I can come up with a secondary source and resubmit the article in the future? Please give me that one chance. Aaditya SYY (talk) 08:43, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Rejection typically means the draft is at the end of the road. If something fundamentally changes about the draft, like new sources that the reviewers did not consider, the first step is to appeal to the most recent reviewer directly.
 * This film is the only topic you have edited about. Do you have a connection to this film? 331dot (talk) 08:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I got a contract to prepare a wikipedia article from the Producer of the movie. This is my first attempt to prepare a Wikipedia article. Aaditya SYY (talk) 08:57, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You must declare your paid editing relationship immediately, this is a Terms of Use requirement. See WP:PAID.  I will also post instructions on your user talk page.  You should also read conflict of interest.
 * Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, even without a conflict of interest. That you chose to dive right in without first gaining some experience and knowledge is on you- if you are being paid to be here(unlike most of us), it's up to you to learn what is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 09:01, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for guiding me. I will gain more experience. Yes, it is a work I'm being paid for, but the movie is genuine. The movie is real and it really got released, and the tickets for the movie were sold in Bookmyshow app as well. I understand that wikipedia article publication is not at all easy. But I will gain more experience and will get better at it by taking good guidance. Thank you. Aaditya SYY (talk) 09:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Aaditya SYY: just to clarify, nobody is saying this film isn't real; it's not like we're claiming it's a hoax. We're saying it hasn't been shown to be notable by Wikipedia standards, which is a hard requirement for publication. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

11:31, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Rutvik888
i want to create a page for a school in sanath nagar hyderbad india, but it is not getting approved Rutvik888 (talk) 11:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Answered below. It is also clear you used an AI chat bot like ChatGPT to write your letter, don't do that.  Qcne  (talk)  12:30, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

11:36, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Rutvik888
Dear Wikipedia Editors,

I hope this letter finds you well. I am writing to bring to your attention the absence of a Wikipedia page for Hindu Public School located in Sanath Nagar, Hyderabad, India. Hindu Public School is the largest educational institution in Sanath Nagar, and I believe that creating a dedicated Wikipedia page for the school is essential to provide accurate and comprehensive information to the public.

Hindu Public School has been a cornerstone of education in the community, contributing significantly to the intellectual and cultural growth of its students. Despite its prominent position, the school is currently not represented on Wikipedia, and this absence is a disservice to those seeking reliable information about educational institutions in Sanath Nagar.

I am eager to contribute to the Wikipedia community by creating and maintaining a well-researched and unbiased page for Hindu Public School. I have gathered extensive information about the school, including its history, notable achievements, faculty, and the impact it has had on the local community. My intention is to ensure that the Wikipedia page adheres to all guidelines and standards set by Wikipedia.

However, I have encountered challenges in getting the page approved. I understand the importance of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines in maintaining the quality and reliability of information on the platform. I am committed to meeting these standards and request your approval to create the Wikipedia page for Hindu Public School.

To facilitate the approval process, I am open to any guidance or feedback from the Wikipedia editing community. I am confident that with your support, we can create a valuable resource that accurately reflects the contributions of Hindu Public School to education in Sanath Nagar.

Thank you for considering my request. I look forward to your positive response and the opportunity to contribute to the Wikipedia community. Rutvik888 (talk) 11:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Rutvik888, the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. There is simply no evidence this school meets our special definition of 'notable' (the guidance of which you can find at WP:NSCHOOL). You've had seven (!) reviews. This is enough now, find something else to work on.  Qcne  (talk)  12:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I did a search. There appears to be nothing in English about the school other than bare mentions. You could possibly try searching in Hindi, Telugu, or Urdu, but unless you can find three independent reliable sources, all of which contain significant coverage of the school, the school simply doesn't meet notability standards, which is the minimum requirement for articles.
 * Please don't keep posting your request for help at multiple boards and user talk pages. If you do find three instances of significant coverage in independent reliable sources, you can post those links to my user talk and I'll take a look, once. I'd strongly suggest that before bringing me three and only three such sources you read WP:SIGCOV, WP:RS, and WP:INDEPENDENT. Valereee (talk) 13:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * and stop using chatgpt for your messages. ltb d l (talk) 13:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

13:35, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Bbilin
Hello,

Thanks a lot for accepting the page for publication. As I mentioned previously, I have no conflict of interest with the person, we are coming from the same small community and I think she (and other people including her partner) deserves having a wikipedia page. Myself I am a physicist working at CERN Switzerland, and hence have neither economic nor social connections with her.

Therefore, I would like to learn how we can remove the disclaimer on top of the page. The page now contains all the references that I have found about her career, also in English on top of the existing Turkish sources of Cyprus.

Many thanks, best regards,

B. Bbilin (talk) 13:35, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Edit: Found out how to remove the box from the page, and updated accordingly. Bbilin (talk) 14:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

13:45, 12 November 2023 review of submission by FoxtrotAzad
Dear Editor,

I have made amendments on the Rezal Khairi article and included notable references. Please consider to publish it based on the recent amendments.

Appreciate your kind understanding on this matter.

Thank you. FoxtrotAzad (talk) 13:45, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @FoxtrotAzad the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further, there is nothing more to do.  Qcne  (talk)  15:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

13:48, 12 November 2023 review of submission by 108.21.67.83
I need help, with the permission, I ask that the draft of Georgios Dritsakos to be transferred improve and let somebody else to create an article of Georgios Dritsakos. I'm not good at it. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 13:48, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Might I suggest you relax, take it one step at a time, and work slowly and gently towards your goal? The goal is to prove that the subject is notable in a Wikipedia sense. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:35, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

14:51, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Www.mioshy
Dear Wikipedia Editors,

I have revised my submission about Yitzhak "Itzik" Barlev, ensuring adherence to Wikipedia's guidelines for notability, neutrality, verifiability, and proper formatting. I have focused on providing factual, well-sourced information about Barlev's career and the impact of his work, avoiding any promotional content. I have disclosed my relationship with the subject to avoid any conflict of interest and have used reliable, independent sources to back all statements made in the article. I believe this revised version aligns with Wikipedia's standards and would be a valuable addition to the encyclopedia. Please let me know if there are any further adjustments needed.

Thank you for your consideration.

Yitzhak Barlev Www.mioshy (talk) 14:51, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * OP blocked. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

15:36, 12 November 2023 review of submission by 80.180.135.200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gaetano_Minale?fbclid=IwAR1Wp1jtXzaBidgHmkWB9leeonr_qufmbqrr41sqPHTPsj72q6kwh9b2VjQ I kindly ask for the deleted draft to be restored and the subsequent publication of the page on Wikipedia because I believe it was deleted unfairly. Thanks Gaetano Minale 80.180.135.200 (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The correct place to request this is at WP:REFUND. However it is fairly clear that this will be declined due to the issues surrounding paid editing, sockpuppets, and lack of notability.
 * Please give up this endeavour, and refund any money you took from the clients to create this article.  Qcne  (talk)  15:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * egr. Mr Qcne you did not read what I wrote correctly, I am Gaetano Minale, an artist where someone created an artistic profile of me and sent it for publication and there was no payment on my part as compensation, which is a very serious thing which he stated. I have 50 years of artistic life in Italy and in the world which is all documented on this website of mine www.gaetanominale.com. Please consult it and you will see that everything you have said is not true. Thank you and I hope you can understand and help me. Gaetano Minale 87.1.48.40 (talk) 13:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

18:58, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Ghrimovich
i do not understand why nokeric is not "notable" enough for wikipedia? i think this is a mistake, maybe this is a case of corruption and personal sabotage. i would like this to be reviewed by another individual. Ghrimovich (talk) 18:58, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * What is your connection to Mr. Bernhagen? (since you took a picture of him)
 * You have no independent reliable sources in the article. Any article about him must summarize what independent reliable source with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about him, showing how he meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person.
 * Corruption and personal sabotage are very serious accusations requiring serious evidence. Provide your evidence(without outing) or withdraw the accusation. 331dot (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * i apologise for my baseless accusation i am just immensely passionate about Mr.Bernhagen and his art, i want it do be documented and memorialized in the vast hauls of wikipedias archives. i regret my words and with the utmost respect for the work of the wikipedia team i sincerely apologise and withdraw my accusations. I am unaware of the machinations or processes to install links to sources for the article. Ghrimovich (talk) 22:25, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ghrimovich As presented, the subject is not notable, except to those who are his fans.
 * For references, please read WP:REFB and WP:CITE. It's not hard. I say this because everyone adds references. The finding of references is the hard thing, not the adding of them to an article.
 * Please take a couple of paces back and read the links I have given you. We will ignore your rant of frustration since you have made a proper apology and withdrawn the comments. For the future, please read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Meanwhile concentrate on finding references. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , your draft is packed full of unreferenced promotional fluff like and  and . Every trace of that kind of promotional language must be removed from your draft. The Neutral point of view is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 04:12, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

21:03, 12 November 2023 review of submission by 74.74.209.253
I do not understand how this article has twice been rejected for not showing "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". This article references two separate articles hosted by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts as well as three separate recognized news outlets covering both the subject's campaign and incumbency. Other incumbents on the Massachusetts Governor's Council have entries (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Iannella_Jr.) with less information. Please help me understand the specific issues involved. 74.74.209.253 (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Please see other stuff exists. Other inappropriate articles cannot be a justification for adding more inappropriate articles. Articles from the Mass. government are primary sources and do not contribute to notability(though they can be used for other purposes).  Interviews don't add to notability either. Notability isn't actually the issue as this person meets WP:NPOLITICIAN for holding elective office- but you still need sources with significant coverage of her.  You don't have that now. 331dot (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

22:17, 12 November 2023 review of submission by James Taylor12
what contribution could be made James Taylor12 (talk) 22:17, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * None, the draft has been rejected. You have no independent reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

23:12, 12 November 2023 review of submission by Davidwalker1981
I've added an infobox to the page but the first image I uploaded previously remains in the same place - I was hoping to replace that with the infobox. Could I get assistance with that change please? Thanks Davidwalker1981 (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * This page is for asking about drafts; you may try the help desk. 331dot (talk) 23:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , I removed the redundant image. Cullen328 (talk) 00:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! David Davidwalker1981 (talk) 09:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)