Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 November 13

= November 13 =

02:19, 13 November 2023 review of submission by SerialNdesgination
I would like to enhance the article by including references to websites. If you agree, I can also create more comprehensive references. Once I have completed the task, I will notify you. Thank you for your consideration. SerialNdesgination (talk) 02:19, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @serialndesgination: your draft has been rejected and will never be considered again. ltb d l (talk) 03:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * i cant create any articles again? SerialNdesgination (talk) 03:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * you can create other articles, just not this one. ltb d l (talk) 04:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

03:51, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Jovana lukina
Hello I have received the feedback that the article I created was not accepted for publication because the subject lacks enough notability. Wikipedia says that good references indicating notability would be the type of article such as “… an interview, a biography, or …”. Using those guidelines I have included references that point out to notability of the subject I am writing about. 1. 3rd party summary on biography: https://theorg.com/org/mirrorcle-technologies/org-chart/lj-ristic https://www.equitynet.com/c/crocus-technology https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/18609238#xj4y7vzkg 2. Interview with Dr. Ristic https://www.sensortips.com/?s=rictic 3. References on Dr. Ristic’s executive appointments https://www.crunchbase.com/person/lj-ristic Alpha Names Ljubisa Ristic Vice President of Technology and Business Development; Former Motorola Executive Selected to Manage Company's Technology Roadmap | Skyworks Solutions, Inc. (skyworksinc.com) 4. Reviews/presentation of the book edited by Dr. Ristic  that contain words like “lucid” etc. https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/sensor-technology-and-devices-ristic-ljubisa-ristic/1124243383 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0957-0233/11/12/710

5. Link on Dr. Ristic’s patent activities https://patents.justia.com/inventor/lj-ristic 6. Reference to the full reprint publication in the respected journal of one of the articles that Dr. Ristic has recently published that certainly speaks to notability of his work. https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/industrial/article/21274969/mirrorcle-technologies-mems-mirrors-the-next-big-wave-in-mems-technology I believe all these references pass the test of notability as outlined by Wikipedia.

Looking forward to hearing from you. Jovana lukina (talk) 03:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

05:37, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Drnishakhanna
My article is rejecting. Please give the reason why my article is rejecting and how can i imporve it that is approved. Drnishakhanna (talk) 05:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * What was the draft? I don't see where you've ever edited before... WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 05:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @WikiOriginal-9 It is the now deleted Draft:Dr. Nisha Khanna.
 * @Drnishakhanna It appears you felt your autobiography would be appropriate. Its was judged to be advertising or promotion, and has been deleted as such. While you are welcome to try again it is suggested that you do not do so. An autobiography is likely to cause you to struggle. Almost no-one is capable of lack of bias about themselves. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

05:46, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Venom 200
Hello, I am attempting to recreate Jane-finch.com. I have cited several recent reliable and in-depth coverage sources to demonstrate the website's notability. However, there are many other media sources such as TV video coverage but where links no longer exist, or have expired. There are only saved versions on YouTube, but editors have said YouTube is does not qualify. I am still unable to get the page approved. Please help. Thank you. Venom 200 (talk) 05:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You declared a COI, what is the general nature of your COI?
 * YouTube does not qualify as user-generated content, unless the video is posted by a reputable news organization on its verified channel. Videos do not have to be online, but you would have to provide enough information that someone could locate the video(like in a physical library archive). The award is meaningless towards notability as the award itself does not merit an article(like Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize). You say that the website attracted attention but do not say what this attention was. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, 331dot. I added a reference links to mainstream new stories that are in-depth about Jane-Finch.com and should pass notability criteria. The attention it attracted was for its creation and existence to promote the Jane-Finch community. The other national news coverage of the website happened in 2005 and are no longer archived anywhere else.
 * Can you please have a look of the links I have provided in the article? It should pass notability requirements.
 * CBC video segment about Jane-Finch.com:
 * https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1048050755589
 * Toronto Sun:
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20080517023812/https://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2008/05/12/5538201-sun.html
 * Webpage and 60 min radio story:
 * https://www.cbc.ca/radio/docproject/a-feeling-of-shock-how-a-toronto-creator-s-jane-finch-website-drew-the-ire-of-police-local-radio-station-1.5817658 Venom 200 (talk) 16:30, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

07:30, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Leo211
All the requirements of the editors (Qcne, Johannes, GoingBatty, Vanderwaalforces, Kilaseell) were met. As a result, each paragraph in the draft article "Petro Kotin" has a link to an official source (parliament website) or a link to a source in a respected media outlet, for example СNN, Reuters, U.S. News etc. What is the meaning of the Lightoil editor's phrase: “This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia”? This is his subjective opinion! Please reconsider this issue and publish the article. With respect and hope for understanding. Leo211 (talk) 07:30, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Leo211: it is perfectly possible for the draft to be sufficiently referenced, and yet for the subject to be non-notable. If there is no evidence of notability, then that is the very opposite of "subjective opinion". In any case, this draft has been rejected now, and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Visibility of the topic to whom? Who evaluates the visibility of a topic? Subjectivity again) As far as I understand, if a topic is mentioned in the world and national media, on the websites of government organizations, then the topic is noticeable. Thank you. Leo211 (talk) 12:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well then you would be wrong. Please review WP:notability.
 * Also, who said anything about "visibility"? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I meaned "notable" but used
 * "visibility". Leo211 (talk) 09:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You say "Kotin played a key role in the Energoatom project" but don't say what that role was. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There are some obvious things. If a person heads the Energoatom company and this company implements the Energoatom project. Naturally, we can continue that this person is moving the project. Thank you. Leo211 (talk) 12:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Leo211 Your next step needs to be to contact the reviewer who rejected this and request they take a second look and discuss it with you. This is an appeal of the rejection. Most reviewers are amenable to a sensible and simple short case being presented to them.
 * Should this fail please come back here, ideally to this thread. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your advice. I will try to convince) Leo211 (talk) 09:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Do reliable sources state that he had a particular influence on the project, something that someone else would not have done? 331dot (talk) 15:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Real projects are not always accompanied by detailed explanations during their implementation due to the need to protect them from attacks from competitors in the media. Upon implementation, detailed information about them is published. This project is still under implementation. Leo211 (talk) 09:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

11:39, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Fact wiki world
Why contrary to Wikipedia regulation please? Fact wiki world (talk) 11:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Because it looks to be a blog post, not an encyclopaedic article.  Qcne  (talk)  14:54, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I accepted your reply definitely. You are right. I also feel like that. You are right my article is more or less similar to blog post. If that is your review, I have no complain for your rejection. You did good. We have gained a lot of knowledge from Wikipedia. Thanks to the founder and its all staff members. Keep it up! Fact wiki world (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

11:42, 13 November 2023 review of submission by 103.85.206.37
Can you explain why it's rejected clearly 103.85.206.37 (talk) 11:42, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * This has been declined (not rejected) for "insufficient context", which is a fancy way of saying "huh, what is this?!"
 * Of course, this could equally have been declined for lack of referencing, lack of evident notability, or as a likely hoax. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

12:59, 13 November 2023 review of submission by 87.1.48.40
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gaetano_Minale?fbclid=IwAR0g76YjLsaE4lIteBxKPFsiknFPxPiDSDIbRf_cggzFID22e2LKEGk3eVQ questa volta lo scrivo in italiano, come posso ottenere la grazia su Wikipedia ed essere di nuovo presente su questa enciclopedia? tutti cercano di eliminare qulsiasi pubblicazione venga fatta a nome d Gaetano Minale e nessuno che cerca di aiutarmi e essere reintegrato dopo 6 anni di blocco infinito. Cchiedo nuovamente ai sigg amministratori di riaprire questa mia bozza di profilo per essere pubblicata, credo che dopo oltre 50 anni di attività artistica come pittore meriti questa pubblicazione. Vi chiedo di consultare questo mio siti web con tutto quello che c'è da sapere sulla mia attività artistico svolta fino ad ora  www.gaetanominale.com  Grazie Gaetano Minale 87.1.48.40 (talk) 12:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Translated:
 * this time I write it in Italian, how can I obtain pardon on Wikipedia and be present on this encyclopedia again? everyone is trying to eliminate any publication made in the name of Gaetano Minale and no one is trying to help me and be reinstated after 6 years of endless blocking. I ask the administrators again to reopen this draft profile of mine to be published, I believe that after over 50 years of artistic activity as a painter it deserves this publication. I ask you to consult this website of mine with everything you need to know about my artistic activity carried out up to now www.gaetanominale.com Thanks Gaetano Minale
 * Response
 * This is the wrong forum. To appeal a block please see Appealing a block. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gaetano_Minale?fbclid=IwAR0g76YjLsaE4lIteBxKPFsiknFPxPiDSDIbRf_cggzFID22e2LKEGk3eVQ
 * per favore Fiddle, per il blocco farò come lei ha proposto, ma la prego ripristina questa bozza cancellata in inglese , dammi la possibilità di dimostrarti che ho tutte le carte in regola per essere pubblicata, controlla questo mio sito con tutte le notizie e vedrà che 50 anni di vita artistica sono tutti documentati.
 * www.gaetanominale.com
 * . Gaetano Minale 87.1.48.40 (talk) 13:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Translated:
 * please Fiddle, for the block I will do as you proposed, but please restore this deleted draft in English, give me the opportunity to demonstrate to you that I have all it takes to be published, check this site of mine with all the news and you will see that 50 years of artistic life are all documented.
 * Response
 * We will await the outcome of your unblock
 * I visited your site. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 14:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr. So if Fiddle has visited my site he will also have noticed that all the news sources are visible in photos from the time or before the internet, with national newspaper clippings, 3 art magazines and many reviews written by famous critics, not to mention of the approximately 100 videos published cg that talk about my work as an artist. Everything is documented visually. This means that my draft has and as references, please restore it and let me know.. thanks, Gaetano Minale 87.1.48.40 (talk) 15:36, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Nothing will happen until your block is addressed. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Mr. Fidlle, Wikipedia's statute suggests that unblocking can be done through an administrator, so I ask you if I can't access Wikipedia because it's blocked, how can I get in touch with an administrator who can study and help me? If you can, why don't you help me? Thank you . Gaetano Minale 87.1.48.40 (talk) 14:35, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

13:20, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Vandeep243
There's a draft Guroudev Bhalla. Can someone improve it and make it ready for submission? Please let me know then will try to submit to review. Thanks Vandeep243 (talk) 13:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Vandeep243 Why don't you do it? 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 13:26, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You are asking a volunteer to choose to spend a considerable amount of their own time working on improving a draft about a subject which is of interest to you, and who you have not shown to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.
 * It is possible that somebody might be willing to do this, but you have made no attempt to engage anybody's interest, simply asked somebody to do a load of work to achieve your purpose. Why would you expect anybody to agree? ColinFine (talk) 23:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

15:02, 13 November 2023 review of submission by 2600:6C5D:5BF0:A2F0:182C:4B99:14C6:687
i need help putting aimkid on here please 2600:6C5D:5BF0:A2F0:182C:4B99:14C6:687 (talk) 15:02, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * There is zero indication this person is notable enough for Wikipedia. Try making an article on youtube.fandom.com  Qcne  (talk)  15:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

17:57, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Dhrubajit61
Hello my last article (Ladli Behna Yojana) was legitimate article. You can check all popular news website about this scheme. Reviewer has commented that 'I don't know about this'. Is this a reason to decline the article!! Plz gather some information and recheck it. Thanks! Dhrubajit61 (talk) 17:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello @Dhrubajit61. The draft was correctly declined. Wikipedia articles must provide context to readers with little familiarity of the subject: your draft is incomprehensible to someone outside of India. However it should also be noted that Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, which is the second reason why your draft fails.  Qcne  (talk)  18:02, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

18:46, 13 November 2023 review of submission by 184.88.156.114
please say okay to my business 184.88.156.114 (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Absolutely not. This is an encyclopaedia for notable topics, not ..whatever your draft is meant to be.  Qcne  (talk)  19:12, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

19:17, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Mohammad Z. Islam
So, what should I do please suggest me. Mohammad Z. Islam (talk) 19:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Nothing, @Mohammad Z. Islam. The article(s) you have submitted have been rejected and will not be considered further.  Qcne  (talk)  19:21, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * There are various institution share there information. It is a non profit organization that help the industry worker. Mohammad Z. Islam (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * May I upload it by native language bn. Mohammad Z. Islam (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Feel free to write for other language Wikipedia projects: they are all different projects with different guidelines and policies.  Qcne  (talk)  19:30, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

19:24, 13 November 2023 review of submission by TlonicChronic
Hi! I'm not an experienced Wikipedia editor (this is my first time attempting to create a stub). I was hoping to go through a few labels' catalogues and create stubs for the releases that didn't have articles, and let other fans and editors flesh them out as they wish. I was wondering if I could get some assistance knowing what sort of citations would be required to create a stub? I'm guessing nearly all the info I'll be attempting to add will be on the records themselves. Can I cite Discogs, which has usually has photos of the albums? Thank you very much for your time! TlonicChronic (talk) 19:24, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @TlonicChronic. Unfortunately you can't cite Discogs, though you can add it as an External Link. Instead cite music magazines (including offline copies), review websites, books and the like. Basically anything that is published with some authority and editorial control.  Qcne  (talk)  19:29, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Is there any way of simply citing the release itself? The track listing (or titles), credits, copyright, etc. are under the direct authority and control of the licensed owner of the material. TlonicChronic (talk) 21:10, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You can certainly use primary sources to cite the release itself, but to pass our WP:NALBUM notability threshold we'd need some secondary sources too. Unfortunately only topics that pass that threshold should have an article written about them. We have thousands and thousands of poor-quality articles that already exist and should not, and we don't want to add to that amount by creating more articles with no/poor sources.
 * If you can't find those secondary sources, then I am afraid the album wouldn't be suitable for Wikipedia at the moment. Please don't let that discourage you, though.  Qcne  (talk)  21:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response! TlonicChronic (talk) 21:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

20:18, 13 November 2023 review of submission by 109.99.212.171
I don't know history,players,kit numbers positions from the club 109.99.212.171 (talk) 20:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * That discussion would just be academic; the draft was rejected, and will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

21:20, 13 November 2023 review of submission by Mypoetry2023
Our bio was declined due to: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject.

How can I present or submit reliable secondary sources that are not available online? We have letters from all the awarding bodies, but there are no websites dedicated to my awards. thanks Mypoetry2023 (talk) 21:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Who is "our"? Only a single person should have access to and be operating your account. If you are Mr. Drummond, you should not allow anyone else to use your account.
 * A letter from a body that gave Mr. Drummond an award would be a primary source- any awards must be discussed in independent reliable sources like news reports. Additionally, the award itself needs to merit an article(like Pulitzer Prize or Academy Award or Nobel Peace Prize) to contribute towards notability.  You need to show significant coverage in independent reliable sources that establishes you meet the special definition of a notable creative professional. 331dot (talk) 21:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Mypoetry2023, I would ask that you read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure if applicable.--CNMall41 (talk) 21:26, 13 November 2023 (UTC)