Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 November 30

= November 30 =

01:03, 30 November 2023 review of submission by 62.4.56.214
How to edit page to be published on Wikipedia 62.4.56.214 (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I fixed your link to your draft. Publishing will not be possible, it was rejected and will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

02:10, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Yilmaz1001
I'm not sure how I can improve my sourcing. I've cited academic textbooks used to teach the concept in college courses, and the only additional things to cite that I can find online cite the same sources I'm citing or have nothing new to contribute to the article, which I don't feel adds a lot. Yilmaz1001 (talk) 02:10, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yilmaz1001, I ask this out of complete ignorance: is this closely enough related to Income–consumption curve that it can be covered there? For some reason this article is coming up when I google search for "Price-consumption curve". -- asilvering (talk) 05:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The income consumption curve describes the set of optimal bundles as income grows, without any change to prices. The price consumption curve describes how the set of optimal bundles changes as the price of one good changes. It is the sum total of the Substitution effect and the income effect. If this topic were to be covered in a different article, it would best be done so either in the Slutsky equation (which is basically the mathematical equivalent of this graphical phenomenon, it also describes the sum total of the substitution and income effects) article or the general Consumer choice article. After reading the consumer choice article (and correcting a typo therein), the "Effect of a price change" section does not explicitly mention the price-consumption curve, but it does include a graphic that derives a demand curve from a few consumer bundles in exactly the same way that one would derive a demand curve from a price-consumption curve (compare to the graphicincluded in the Spanish Wikipedia article that I wrote on the topic) (which, again, is the set of consumer bundles for many different prices of one of the goods). Perhaps some minor changes could be made there, or perhaps this article could be linked to from that section in order to provide more information. Yilmaz1001 (talk) 08:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Yilmaz1001 ok, I'm going to go ahead and accept this article in that case - aside from the confusing result I asked you about, a google search for the topic makes it very clear that this topic is covered by dozens if not hundreds of sources, and I do not believe that an article on the topic could possibly be deleted for lack of notability. That's the bar we're trying to clear here at AfC. Because it's such a short article, you may find that other editors will want to move the content somewhere else, but any discussion like that can be handled in mainspace. It would be very helpful if you could make some links from various related articles to this one. Thanks for writing the article! -- asilvering (talk) 18:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

05:05, 30 November 2023 review of submission by LinnLaughLove
Hi there! I'm trying to publish a page about a Cancer Awareness Month that my organization is developing. I'm confused as to why the page has been denied publication twice, so I was hoping you could help me with it. Thank you! LinnLaughLove (talk) 05:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @LinnLaughLove, if your org is only now developing this event, there is no chance whatsoever that it is appropriate for it to have a wikipedia article. Please see WP:N. -- asilvering (talk) 05:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that what you are doing is trying to use Wikipedia for promotion (which in Wikipedia terms applies to charities and non-profits as well as to commercial enterprises). Promotion is forbidden anywhere on Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

05:43, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Ahmed12322
Tell me my mistake bcz i am new here and i will try to edit with your terms and policy thanks Ahmed12322 (talk) 05:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , your draft is entirely unreferenced, which violates the core content policy Verifiability. It is also written in the style of a personal essay instead of an encyclopedia article. There are many websites that would accept your opinions. Wikipedia is not among them. Cullen328 (talk) 08:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, Ahmed12322. Like most of the people posting on this page, you have started your Wikipedia journey by plunging straight into the most challenging task there is. This is like buying a musical instrument you've never played, and immediately giving a public concert.
 * I always advise new editors to spend several weeks or months learning how Wikipedia works by improving some of our six million articles before they try this: see the community portal for some suggested tasks. ColinFine (talk) 16:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Your draft also has aspects of a How to guide, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. We neutrally describe topics. We do not instruct our readers how to do various things. Cullen328 (talk)

07:41, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Nuresiya
Karena saya membutuhkannya untuk tugas akhir kuliah Nuresiya (talk) 07:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Nuresiya: as already pointed out, this is the English-language Wikipedia, and we can only accept content, and communicate, in English. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

08:44, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Owen Hwo
Can you provide me with a Wikipedia officially recognized format and organizational specifications? Owen Hwo (talk) 08:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Owen Hwo: I assume you refer to the comments in your declined draft ? The formatting, organisation, etc. guidelines are provided in the Manual of style.
 * While you're here: what is your relationship to this organisation? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:50, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

09:13, 30 November 2023 review of submission by 117.235.202.61
this ia an organisation i am work here why it's page reject. 117.235.202.61 (talk) 09:13, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Remember to log in when posting. If you work for the organization, you are required by the Terms of Use to declare that, see WP:PAID.
 * The draft was rejected and will not be considered further because it does nothing other than describe the existence of the company. Wikipedia articles do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company.  Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. 331dot (talk) 09:18, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

10:11, 30 November 2023 review of submission by RedTSports
My draft got declined yesterday and this was the feedback:

All other considerations apart this needs a careful look. It is meant to be a generic article abut the awards, so why is there a 2024 intro about that venue? Please work on what you want to wrote about before resubmitting. Once you do that we can give it a competent review

I'm not clear on what this is referring to? Do i simply need to remove mentions of 2024 awards as it's not taken place yet? I would really like this to be approved so please let me know what specifically i can do RedTSports (talk) 10:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Are you writing about the awards in general (like Nobel Peace Prize) or specifically about the 2024 awarding of the awards?(like 2023 Nobel Peace Prize)? Either way, you will need independent reliable sources that are unaffiliated with the ISU or the IOC/Olympics to summarize. 331dot (talk) 10:34, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

16:44, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Broccolirun
I'm currently editing the artist's wiki page. but the feedback so far is that it's missing the references from magazines/books. but this artist is missing this published, and it's not searchable on the web, so can I add more information about his exhibition histories to solve this problem? Broccolirun (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Sources do not have to be online, but they do have to have been reliably published. Exhibition catalogues may assist for factual information like dates (see primary sources) but they will not contribute to notability.
 * The non-negotiable bottom line is that to make an article on Liu you need to find several places where people who have no connection whatever with him, and have not been prompted by him or his associates, have chosen to write about him (not just his exhibitions) in some depth, and been published somewhere reliable. ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

17:41, 30 November 2023 review of submission by NatalieW123
Hi! What type of sources do I need to use for this article for them to be considered reliable? NatalieW123 (talk) 17:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @NatalieW123: TBH, the two sources seem quite reliable; I think the issue may be rather that the citations aren't quite enough to support the contents. But the bigger problem (IMO) is that with both sources being close primary ones, they don't contribute to notability per WP:GNG, which requires independent secondary sources. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:55, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @NatalieW123 please see WP:RS. I'm not sure why you were given that decline message, since you don't have unreliable sources. What you do need to show is notability. See WP:NPROF or WP:GNG for criteria. -- asilvering (talk) 17:56, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

18:19, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Osiris1634
How would me being on wikipedia hurt anybody? I mean come on Osiris1634 (talk) 18:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Osiris1634: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a social media or blogging platform, and not a place to tell the world about yourself. This draft has been rejected; please leave it at that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

21:27, 30 November 2023 review of submission by Snofel
Hey, I was wondering if you could help me write an bio for this artist. I really like his music and I think he should finally recive a wkipedia page. Snofel (talk) 21:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia has articles, not pages. This isn't the place to request co-authors for an article- you could try the musician WikiProject. 331dot (talk) 21:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You'll need to have independent reliable sources that show this musician meets the special definition of a notable musician. Your draft was entirely promotional and poorly sourced, and was deleted.  Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2023 (UTC)