Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 October 12

= October 12 =

00:00, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Halima Shehu
How can i get this page approved on time and published as it is urgent. Halima Shehu (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Why is it so urgent. KingTheD (talk) 02:13, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * First of all a Wikipedia article is not a source, so you have to remove it as a reference. You also need to add links to other Wikipedia articles, and it appears your writing about yourself, which you have to disclose. KingTheD (talk) 02:21, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

06:16, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Xxitswx
May I know exact place or line that need to be amend? Xxitswx (talk) 06:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Xxitswx: there is no one "exact place or line", the draft fails to demonstrate notability, which is a question of sources. It is also purely promotional in tone and content, and for that reason I am requesting that it is deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

11:59, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Aaa1993
hello can you help me understand how to get this article approved? the references used were all reliable Aaa1993 (talk) 11:59, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Aaa1993: there is currently no evidence that the subject is notable; you need to show that she passes either the WP:GNG or WP:NACADEMIC notability standard. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:08, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * PS: Or, I suppose, WP:ENTERTAINER. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:11, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

12:58, 12 October 2023 review of submission by 188.39.160.186
wasn't accepted 188.39.160.186 (talk) 12:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct a club that was started 6 days ago is hardly likely to have gained enough coverage in reliable independent sources to warrant an article. Theroadislong (talk) 13:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

13:18, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Esemih0109
Hello! I’d like to ask if anyone can explain why exactly my article was rejected. I’ve not completely understood why. You can find it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Doulant

Thank you! Esemih0109 (talk) 13:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Esemih0109: because while we do have articles on various hoaxes and fictional topics, such topics must meet our usual notability criteria, which this doesn't provide any evidence of. Wikipedia is also not a place to write about something you just WP:MADEUP. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a web host, your draft had zero indication that the topic was notable. Theroadislong (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

13:32, 12 October 2023 review of submission by TNM101
I can't seem to find any reliable sources for my article. It keeps getting declined. Can someone help me please? TNM101 (talk) 13:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @TNM101: the onus is very much on the draft creator(s) to support their draft with appropriate and sufficient sources, that's not something we here at the help desk would do. If you're unable to find such sources, that probably tells us that the subject is not notable enough to include in Wikipedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

13:38, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Readyarticles
i submit review of my draft may i know why you declined that please tell me or is there any content which you found wrong please tell us. Readyarticles (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Readyarticles: the draft is unreferenced; there are long lists of external links (which are not allowed), but no citations (which are required). See WP:REFB for advice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

13:40, 12 October 2023 review of submission by 188.39.160.186
Give us a wikipedia please, hallway club is very official and should be in wikipedia as we are inclined to move into a different website if you cannot grant us this. Many people will be interested in the club due to it's rising numbers, and you will miss out on lots of money per click. 188.39.160.186 (talk) 13:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * This draft has been rejected and is pending deletion. If you wish to tell the world about your club, you very much should try a different website, as Wikipedia is not the right place for that. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:01, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You misused the term "Wikipedia". "Wikipedia" refers to this entire website which is composed of articles.  Organizations do not "have a Wikipedia", Wikipedia has articles about them. 331dot (talk) 18:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

18:18, 12 October 2023 review of submission by 121.46.85.79
The article draft is getting declined again and again due to sources. Please help me. 121.46.85.79 (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I have rejected your article, which means it will not be considered further. Your article was meandering and full of claims that broke our strict neutrality policy. Your sources were insufficient to establish the statements you made were true.  Qcne  (talk)  18:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you please explain? Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 18:24, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As all the information i published were taken from the the books and and the official websites. Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * What is even more embarrassing to the respect of this ancient warrior tribe is that 6 north Indian states have included Regars/Raigars in their SC list..., Members of the Regar/Raigar community have excelled in many fields of politics, bureaucracy, business, and more..., Regars/Raigars must re-establish their identity as Kshatriyas to honor their history by leaving their SC reservation... < are all examples of completely unacceptable statements for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia does not pose questions to the reader, does not make value judgements, and should be neutral.
 * You only actually have three sources as you have duplicated each of them. One goes to the homepage of a random blog, one is a malformed link, and the other doesn't work for me.  Qcne  (talk)  18:31, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay so can i make a new article by correcting these questions and keep the statements neutral? And put the sources correctly? Will it be acceptable after that?
 * also option of resubmit edit is not showing please help me with that Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 19:51, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Honeysingh1234321 you cannot re-submit as I have rejected the draft. If you feel you can write a proper draft, please ping me on my User Talk Page and I will have another look at it.
 * I would ask you to scrutinise carefully the following before you start:
 * - WP:VERIFY
 * - WP:NOTABILITY
 * - WP:NPOV
 * - WP:MOS  Qcne  (talk)  19:55, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I have edited the article please check it Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Honeysingh1234321. This has gotten a bit complicated now, as you've also submitted
 * Draft:Rehgars_/_Regar which seems to be a duplicate of the submission Draft:Regar_Raghuvanshi_Kshatriya.
 * However, Robert McClenom was correct to point out we have an article on this group at Regar. They seem to be the same group? Is there a reason you cannot improve the already existing Regar article instead?  Qcne   (talk)  09:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Honeysingh1234321, it's rejected a few times now not "because of sources", but because the sources are not acceptable, they are not footnoted, and the writing is poor and not neutral. Above, indicates what is wrong with the sources--you can't just ignore that. Well, I guess you can, and you keep doing it, with a predictable result. https://raigar.net/ is not an acceptable (reliable) source, and that general link to the opening page of the website does not contribute anything useful to properly referencing the article. Drmies (talk) 22:55, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

18:25, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Syamsatyatvm
why the account will regected Syamsatyatvm (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Syamsatyatvm Did you bother to read my decline notice? Do you have specific questions about it?  Qcne  (talk)  18:25, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

18:30, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Honeysingh1234321
The article draft is getting declined again and again due to sources. Please help me. This Article is about a caste in India whose information is not present on the internet. Can you please explain? As all the information i published were taken from the books and the official websites. Can you please help me how can i cite the source correct way. Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 18:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I have answered your question above, do not make new topics.  Qcne  (talk)  18:31, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

19:43, 12 October 2023 review of submission by MWG.Raph
I want to delete this page, I need to refine my references so that I have more definite evidence on the subject. Please delete this page entirely, as it is viewable by the public. When we're ready to resubmit with new, updated references, a whole new page will be done. Thank you MWG.Raph (talk) 19:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Who is we? User accounts are strictly single person use. Theroadislong (talk) 19:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

19:46, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Honeysingh1234321
Please give me the reason why it is violating your policy? Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 19:46, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It has been clearly explained above numerous times. Please WP:DROPTHESTICK. Theroadislong (talk) 19:50, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay so can i make a new article by correcting these questions and keep the statements neutral? And put the sources correctly? Will it be acceptable after that?
 * also option of resubmit edit is not showing please help me with that
 * Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 19:51, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Your draft was rejected there is no option to re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Honeysingh1234321 please do not make new topics when you already have an active thread. I am repeating what I told you above:
 * You cannot re-submit as I have rejected the draft. If you feel you can write a proper draft, please ping me on my User Talk Page and I will have another look at it.
 * I would ask you to scrutinise carefully the following before you start:
 * - WP:VERIFY
 * - WP:NOTABILITY
 * - WP:NPOV
 * - WP:MOS
 *  Qcne  (talk)  19:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay thankyou so much
 * surely i will 121.46.85.79 (talk) 19:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

21:23, 12 October 2023 review of submission by Totallyred78
I recently received a submission declined notification on this article, and I would appreciate more specific direction on the changes needed to make it eligible for publication. For your consideration, I respectfully offer a response to the feedback given to me and would welcome your support in instructing me on how to make the edits necessary to be published. 1) "I'm kinda unimpressed with the fluffy nature of their sourcing." Chicago Tribune and Daily Herald are listed by Wikipedia as credible. Local independent media outlets - the Naperville Sun, Naperville Magazine, and Patch.com - were also used. Each of these sources is reporting news about Naperville Community Television that is most probably "lifestyle" section-oriented, but the nature of this public access television station is to provide information of public interest to their community. This station is not intended to be a hard-hitting, investigative reporting resource. From these sources, I extracted factual information to represent a neutral point of view about the history and operation of Naperville Community Television. Given that Wikipedia pages exist for many cultural topics and people that might be considered “fluffy” by many, how do I respond to this feedback? 2) "Documentaries" and "Awards" are not sections that are encyclopedic." I believed the "Documentaries" and "Awards" listings would support the notability claim and used independent, credible sources to reference them. Does this section need to be rewritten or eliminated and would that meet the criteria for publication? 3) "The show list needs to be trimmed down. It has a ways to go." These programs physically exist. Current programs can be viewed online through the station's website and on YouTube and Vimeo. Past programming can be viewed on YouTube and Vimeo. I also reviewed other Wikipedia pages for public access television stations (for example, BronxNet, Queens Public Television, Tri-Valley Community Television) and using these and other examples as a base, improved upon verification for the shows listed by adding independent, credible sources to reference them. How do I respond to this critique - do I eliminate this section or, preferably, what additional edits need to be made? My experience in producing this article for consideration for publication has given me additional respect for what Wikipedia is and its standards and I want to abide by them. Please help me make the changes necessary to edit this article to achieve publication. Totallyred78 (talk) 21:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)