Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 October 20

= October 20 =

00:50, 20 October 2023 review of submission by Snvrk
An editor said I don't have enough sources. I need help proving that this article is actually authentic. Snvrk (talk) 00:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Snvrk, not authentic, notable there is a difference. No one is claiming you lied about anything in the draft about yourself we simply said you did not prove anyone else has written about you in reliable independent source in any significant way. All your sources are connected to you which makes it seem like only you have noticed yourself. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 00:54, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You have no references. KingTheD (talk) 01:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Snvrk You also have to disclose that your writing about yourself KingTheD (talk) 01:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * how to add that? Snvrk (talk) 01:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * the autobiography part or whatever it is called on wikipedia Snvrk (talk) 01:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * nevermind, i've done it Snvrk (talk) 02:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Snvrk Social media accounts can’t be used as sources on Wikipedia. KingTheD (talk) 02:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

03:17, 20 October 2023 review of submission by IVickyChoudhary
He's a famous bollywood movie director, still unable to create valid article for him. So requesting fellow and senior contributors to help and improve the draft so it can be published. iVickyChoudhary (talk) 03:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @IVickyChoudhary: unlikely anyone here at the help desk will get involved in editing; you may wish to raise this at some of the WikiProjects, esp. India and Film. That said, if you cannot find sufficient sources to show notability, then perhaps the subject simply isn't notable enough? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I mentioned many of reliable sources (news articles from mainstream media properly based on this person) still why it's not eligible ? iVickyChoudhary (talk) 11:30, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

08:07, 20 October 2023 review of submission by Martha1
Reviewer TimTrent declined this article because I used copyright material -- it was my own copyright -- I wrote the obituary in the paper that I quoted. Unfortunately, i couldn't figure out how to give my permission for its use in wikipedia --So I changed the wikipedia article to get rid of the copyright material.. (I still footnoted the source.) Is there anything more I should do? I am really not very good at this -- I promise I won't try to write another article. However, I have put a lot of work into this one and want to know what to do to get it published. Will TimTrent get back to me when he can or has the article been cancelled? Advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Martha1 (talk) 08:07, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The draft may be resubmitted. If you have contacted TimTrent I'm sure he will get back to you. 331dot (talk) 08:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * See donating copyrighted materials for information on donating text for use in Wikipedia- though original text is preferred. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

09:15, 20 October 2023 review of submission by M1-sh283h1
I am unsure as to why my article was declined, a very generic reason was give and I am not sure how to improve or edit the article - any advice or guidance would be most appreciated. M1-sh283h1 (talk) 09:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @M1-sh283h1: my guess would be that it was rejected (not 'declined') because it isn't a viable draft for an encyclopaedia article.
 * BTW, do you have some involvement with Shoppp3D? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:54, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

09:22, 20 October 2023 review of submission by Angiemcc2023
I have created this draft and have mentioned it all in shot terms. Can I get help to improve it and add the details that are required to submit the draft again?

Angiemcc2023 (talk) 09:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Angiemcc2023: the onus is on you to create the draft and find the necessary sources etc., we don't get involved in draft creation here at the help desk. If you have specific questions about the process, you're welcome to ask those. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

14:39, 20 October 2023 review of submission by MoltenSalts02
Hello, I recently submitted this draft that was declined almost immediately for not providing reliable sources. I tried to follow this guide as best I could: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Writing_guide

Could someone help give me some feedback so that I can improve the draft? Thank you MoltenSalts02 (talk) 14:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * All of your references are from the publisher of the journal; an article must primarily summarize what independent reliable sources say about the subject. See WP:NJOURNAL about what makes a journal notable and how you can show it. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @MoltenSalts02: my guess (and it is only that) is that because all the citations are to the publisher's own website, the reviewer felt that this wasn't sufficient to verify the information. You can only use close primary sources to support entirely non-contentious statements, such as the name of the editor, or the frequency of publication. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:51, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

14:49, 20 October 2023 review of submission by Sadid Lailuma
Dear yours, the text that I sent to be published on Wikipedia is my biography. As a public person, I consider it as interesting for many people. Would you be so kind as to advise me on how should I modify my text to become acceptable to be published? I'm already registered and I have a Wikipedia username and password for a while. Sadid Lailuma (talk) 14:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The only content you submited in the draft was your name, but Wikipedia is not a place to publish your biography. Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources say about a person, not what they want to say about themselves. Please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Sadid Lailuma: you asked about this already yesterday, and I said that just writing your name is not a viable article draft. That's beside the bigger point that you shouldn't be writing about yourself in the first place. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You seem to be ignoring what we are writing here, and creating new sections of this page with every comment. Please read and edit this existing section. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

20:00, 20 October 2023 review of submission by KfcClash
why my draft was rejected? KfcClash (talk) 20:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * This is an encyclopaedia, not a place to put the biographies of non-notable Youtubers on.  Qcne  (talk)  20:07, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ok. still there are alot of youtubers that have wikipedia pages and there is a question in the send draft for review to choose the most appropriate category and one of the options is "Biography of a living person" KfcClash (talk) 20:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Firstly, people must meet the WP:NPEOPLE criteria in order for an article to be written about them. Your draft did not prove this YouTuber met that criteria. Secondly, biographies of living people have exceedingly strict referencing requirements. Your draft had no references other than a link to his channel.  Qcne  (talk)  20:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ok thank you. KfcClash (talk) 20:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Why on earth did you re-submit it? It was rejected. Don't do that again.  Qcne  (talk)  20:58, 20 October 2023 (UTC)