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= September 17 =

01:29, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Ben-hurrian
Hello,

The Reddit page was mine too, however, since it was causing issue with this article, i removed all traces from Reddit. I hope this will solve the problem. Please let me know if I need to do more work as this entry is crucial and I need to get it right.

Many thanks Ben-hurrian (talk) 01:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ben-hurrian: even though you've removed the same text from the Reddit page, that doesn't actually change the fact that this is a copyvio, it just makes it less obvious. In any case, the draft is completely unsuitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, not least because it is unreferenced with no evidence of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:36, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I wrote this material, if there is a copyright it belongs to me. This is an original piece by me.  I did not copy and paste from anywhere.  So‌ an entity such as this young organization cannot be listed anywhere?  I know the suject is taboo and many have problem with it, but that does not make it unsuitable for Wiki. Ben-hurrian (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The subject being unconventional or taboo is not relevant- there are many "taboo" subjects that merit articles- however this one does not, as it is just an essay that you wrote explaining the concept. Wikipedia does not merely list things, and is not a place for organizations to tell the world about themselves.  A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources say about topics that meet the special Wikipedia definition of notability.
 * As for the copyright, if your first posted it on Reddit, the copyright is associated with that, even if you wrote the text. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * message:
 * Dear Wikipedia
 * Editorial Team,
 * I hope this message finds you well. I have recently submitted an article about Altronauts, a groundbreaking concept in the field of space exploration, to Wikipedia. I understand that the initial submission did not meet all of Wikipedia's guidelines, and I have since made revisions to align it more closely with your standards. The updated article is now available in my "sandbox" for your review.
 * Altronaut is a grassroots organization comprised entirely of volunteers. We are not a commercial venture; rather, we are dedicated to advancing humanity's capabilities in space exploration.
 * I am in active discussions with President Biden, Vice President Harris, various members of Congress, and NASA to bring attention to this innovative approach. We believe it is a critical step for humanity to become a spacefaring species and mitigate the risks associated with being confined to a single planet.
 * The inclusion of this article on Wikipedia would serve as a valuable resource for the public, as well as for policymakers and members of the administration who are interested in understanding our work. It aims to educate and prepare society for the future possibilities and challenges that come with deep space exploration.
 * I would be immensely grateful if you could assist in moving this article from the "sandbox" to the main Wikipedia space, thereby helping to educate the public about this important initiative.
 * Best regards,
 * [Your Name]
 * Founder, Altronaut
 * Feel free to make any adjustments or let me know if you'd like to add more details. Ben-hurrian (talk) 10:59, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are the founder of this organization, you have a conflict of interest. Please review that policy. Currently your sandbox is blank(though it looks like you may have put text in the edit summary- if that's what you intended as your article content, it is thoroughly unsuitable. Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselvse and what they do- Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. You being in discussion with what I assume is actually the offices/staff of various politicians instead of them directly, is not relevant. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Feel free to make any adjustments or let me know if you'd like to add more details. Ben-hurrian (talk) 10:59, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are the founder of this organization, you have a conflict of interest. Please review that policy. Currently your sandbox is blank(though it looks like you may have put text in the edit summary- if that's what you intended as your article content, it is thoroughly unsuitable. Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselvse and what they do- Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. You being in discussion with what I assume is actually the offices/staff of various politicians instead of them directly, is not relevant. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

06:32, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Rajeshranga0715
My article is declined I want to know why I posted "7 day loan" related a article and that is declined by Teahouse so here I want to know what is the issue with my article so in future i provide proper knowledge Rajeshranga0715 (talk) 06:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Rajeshranga0715: the draft was declined because it is poorly referenced with no evidence of notability. It is also unsuitable for Wikipedia, as we are an encyclopaedia, not a loan comparison site. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:40, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * now how to modified that article again Rajeshranga0715 (talk) 06:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I fixed your post to provide a proper link to your draft. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It has now been deleted as promotional- please review Your First Article to learn more about what is being looked for. If you work in the loan industry, please read conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 08:15, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

13:28, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Footy031982
I am unsure what Wikipedia are looking for to publish the draft for Logan Williams-Owen.

Can you please provide examples of what you require with regards references. Footy031982 (talk) 13:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Footy031982: as it says in the decline notice(s), we need to see
 * "multiple published sources that are:
 * in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
 * reliable
 * secondary
 * independent of the subject"
 * Of the sources currently cited, none is independent, none provides significant coverage, and additionally Twitter is not considered reliable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, although the draft wasn't (at this time) declined for this reason, all the citations are piled at the end, whereas they need to be cited inline after the information that they support, so that it is clear which source provides what information. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:13, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

14:22, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Farshadsadri
Hello,

I have created a new article and tried to fix resources for an Oscar 2024 selected director. The article has shown some resource and structure problems due to a lack of experience on my side. I have been advised to discuss the issues here among experienced editors.

So far, I have made many attempts to improve the article; however, some of the news sources have been selected as copyright protected, though I just tried to transfer news, not copying the exact text, just an indication to the news article. Would someone please help me with improving the article?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Behrouz_Sebt_Rasoul Farshad (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

17:28, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Punk Rock London
I would like to know why my article has been declined, Many thanks. Punk Rock London (talk) 17:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The decline notice at the top of your draft tells you VERY clearly why... namely "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject." which part of that don't you understand? Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

20:08, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Dunnothing
Hi, I am just wondering what sources should I put on this? Dunnothing (talk) 20:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Dunnothing. The key thing is if it passes WP:NPLACE.  Qcne  (talk)  20:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

20:09, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Commercial-Way-2982
Because Commercial-Way-2982 (talk) 20:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

20:13, 17 September 2023 review of submission by 2607:FB91:C1B:57D3:94C4:6B30:8F53:BF43
Can someone write a Wikipedia for Ian A. Medina based on what I wrote. 2607:FB91:C1B:57D3:94C4:6B30:8F53:BF43 (talk) 20:13, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Stellacorrales.
 * The answer is no, obviously. Please see the message I left on your talk page.  Qcne  (talk)  20:20, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

20:13, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Commercial-Way-2982
Project Commercial-Way-2982 (talk) 20:13, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question, @Commercial-Way-2982? Your draft was rejected for being nonsense, and will soon be deleted.  Qcne  (talk)  20:17, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

21:32, 17 September 2023 review of submission by MoneySaver12
I want to know why this article should not exist on Wikipedia? The article is neatly written (if there is anything that is not worthy of Wikipedia, please let me know exactly what I need to change and correct in order to edit the article...) The article is instructive, here are all the guidelines on how to work with SEO.. MoneySaver12 (talk) 21:32, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
 * OP blocked as a sock. 331dot (talk) 00:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

22:07, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Taimia Ayub
I have removed the material which was flagged as copyright.I have now used my own words to explain things.Can anyone suggest further necessary changes?and how to proceed?Thank you Taimia Ayub (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

23:00, 17 September 2023 review of submission by Discerningfortruth
Hello,

Would you have any other suggestions to improve this article about Professor Calvin Johnson? I added several new articles reputable sources, such as NPR, in addition to his publications.

Please let me know if there is anything else I should add or change. Discerningfortruth (talk) 23:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Discerningfortruth. Your last five references are bullet points, instead of having an associated footnote number?  Qcne  (talk)  08:27, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like it is live! Another editor helped improve it quite a bit. Glad this is live! Discerningfortruth (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Discerningfortruth: what do you mean "it is live"? The draft is still a draft, it hasn't been published (that I can see, at least) if that's what you mean. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)