Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2023 September 24

= September 24 =

00:39, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Dberhane
Wikipedia has a long list of entries titled "Bibliography of" this war or that war. And I was trying to start an entry on Tigray war, using the page "Bibliography of the Darfur war" as a template or sample. Why is my draft rejected? Dberhane (talk) 00:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I provided the proper link to your draft for you. Please see other stuff exists- but other bibliographies like Bibliography of the American Civil War summarize what sources say about the body of works that document an event- you merely listed sources. 331dot (talk) 09:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

09:25, 24 September 2023 review of submission by PeggyIdog00d
Why did you delete my whole family biography and who is that person that requested it to have the say so to delete my entire hard work. I did not promote anything, I informed of my projects and family life. I recorded all I did. Peggy Irabor (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * What you describe is the definition of promotion, at least on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not for merely providing information, and is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. Please see the autobiography policy. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about topics deemed notable. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @PeggyIdog00d: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a genealogy website, and also not a blogging or social media platform. Please do not attempt to publish your biography here. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ok. Understood. I will place my information elsewhere since I have been inspired to do so. I see you say it is called Genealogy rather than Biography. Thank you for your help. Peggy Irabor (talk) 09:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

09:28, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Alldigital1992
Please let me know, why the submission has been declined, what i need to do for success full submission? please help in this. Alldigital1992 (talk) 09:28, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I fixed your link(you had left out the "Draft:"). The reviewer left you a message on your draft describing the specific issue and what you can do to remedy it. 331dot (talk) 09:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

11:00, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Bill Wilson AKA "CIA"
After having my article declined twice for insignificant coverage, I would like to know whether there are certain types of sources that are particularly effective at getting over this hurdle. By sources, I mean things like interviews, bios, reviews, etc... Bill Wilson AKA &#34;CIA&#34; (talk) 11:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bill Wilson AKA "CIA": journalists, news and sports presenters, and the like typically suffer from the fact that although they are 'in the news' a lot, they are usually reporting or presenting, rather than being the subject of the report.
 * If you find independent bios or reviews, those are usually pretty good. Interviews are usually not, as it's either the subject talking about themselves (= non-independent, and possibly non-reliable), or they're talking about something else (= might help to make the 'something else' notable, but not themselves).
 * If you cannot find sufficient sources to establish notability, then that usually means the subject simply isn't notable and you may have to drop it and find something else to write about. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:22, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

11:32, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Ole.one.sock
I like ARWAH Ole.one.sock (talk) 11:32, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay, @Ole.one.sock, but this draft is not suitable for Wikipedia.  Qcne  (talk)  12:07, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

13:48, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Rohitkumar8055
How can i make it fix and reliable to publish it on wikipedia Rohitkumar8055 (talk) 13:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * You can't, @Rohitkumar8055. It has been rejected and won't be considered further. The organisation does not pass WP:NORG.  Qcne  (talk)  14:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

16:30, 24 September 2023 review of submission by Avicennah
Hello there,

My first article on a well-known neighbourhood school was first reviewed last week by someone who asked me to include URLs from the school site. I made changes and now another reviewer left a comment and I don' t understand it. [ No indication of passing WP:NSCHOOL with current sources ]. Can someone explain to me what is it and what should I fix so the article is approved? Regards, Avicennah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MS_Education_Academy Avicennah (talk) 16:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Avicennah: I'm assuming you mean this ?
 * You were asked to provide multiple independent and reliable sources providing significant coverage of the school (not to "include URLs from the school site"). The second review essentially says the same, ie. that the sources cited aren't sufficient to show that the school is notable per WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

18:21, 24 September 2023 review of submission by 49.195.29.227
Hello The sources used are from the competition result pages.

Can you please advise what information requires a reliable source added.

Kind regards 49.195.29.227 (talk) 18:21, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

18:34, 24 September 2023 review of submission by 2.97.89.40
Hi, I tried to create a Wikipedia article for my band but I must have done something wrong because it got declined. Can someone please help me with this?

Many thanks. Andras 2.97.89.40 (talk) 18:34, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid almost all bands fail our threshold of WP:NMUSICIAN. If you can prove that it passes despite your WP:COI, it is likely to be accepted 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are user, please log into your account when editing.
 * I declined your draft because it contained nothing more than a YouTube link. That is clearly not a viable article draft. Please see WP:YFA for advice on article creation. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I will get all the references together and we will have reviews soon and much more online stuff. Another band on the same team has a wikipedia already so I just tried it out to see how it works.
 * Thanks for your help! 2A04:4A43:573F:DB3B:D93A:3F1C:1721:DA11 (talk) 09:50, 25 September 2023 (UTC)