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= April 6 =

00:53, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Parastoo7
Hi there, I'm writing regarding the recent rejection of the article on "The Black Fish" album. It was cited for "non-reliable sources," despite including reputable sources like CBC News and the Junos official website, alongside links to other Wikipedia pages. Could you kindly clarify this decision? Any guidance on ensuring reliability would be appreciated. Thanks Parastoo7 (talk) 00:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Parastoo7: firstly, this draft wasn't rejected (which would mean it cannot be resubmitted), only declined (which means it can, once the decline reasons have been addressed). Secondly, it wasn't declined for "non-reliable sources", but for lack of notability, which the sources do not establish. You need to demonstrate that the subject is notable either per the general WP:GNG or the special WP:NALBUM notability guideline. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your prompt response! Your clarification is much appreciated. Based on the Wikipedia guidelines, specifically WP:NALBUM, I believe this album holds notability due to its nomination for the JUNO Awards, a major music award. Does this adequately address the decline reason? Your assistance in this process is invaluable. Parastoo7 (talk) 19:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You wrote that the album received positive reviews but only offered one review. 331dot (talk) 19:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

04:43, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Man in Yellow Profitt
We wanted to make this page as a tribute to Jeff Profitt. He makes movies that arent really watched by anyone and our discord seems to be the only fans of his. We wanted to promote him in this and try to get people to watch the movies more. I did not make this to try to ridicule the purpose of Wikipedia. I only wanted to do this for a podcast about the director. Man in Yellow Profitt (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Man in Yellow Profitt: this draft has been rejected and is awaiting speedy deletion.
 * For future reference, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. We don't publish 'tributes'. And we certainly are not a platform to 'promote' anything or anyone; in fact, promotion is forbidden here.
 * Moreover, we only summarise what other, reliable sources have previously said. If a subject is not well known, then that probably means there aren't such sources to summarise, and therefore it isn't possibly to publish a Wikipedia article on the subject. We are never the right channel to build someone's reputation, we only reflect a reputation already built elsewhere. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

04:55, 6 April 2024 review of submission by 47.72.141.32
How do i edit the title - need to change the word Football to Rugby 47.72.141.32 (talk) 04:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You cannot edit page titles, this is effected by moving the page to a different title. If/when the draft is accepted, it will be moved anyway, so you can just ignore this matter for now. (There is already a comment on the draft saying this should be rugby, not football.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

11:16, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Rudynotfound
hey there this is rudynotfound a guy who wrote an article about ReduxOS and it has been declined i am new to wikipedia and its my first time writting an article, can i know why was it declined? would be appreciated Rudynotfound (talk) 11:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Courtesy link Draft:ReduxOS. The reason is given in the grey box of the decline, namely that “This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified” Theroadislong (talk) 11:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

11:36, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Senabhati
I want to publish about Senabhati I want to know why Wikipedia decline my draft Senabhati (talk) 11:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Because it is poorly written and has no sources. Theroadislong (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Not helped by the fact that there are at least three versions of this floating around. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

15:02, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Ekoturystyka
Good morning, my post was declined and I would like to ask for advice. I am working professionally in ecotourism science in Poland and Central Europe. I am not representing the organization I am writing about (I am not a board member, nor a founder nor a person or entity having a business relation). I took part in several international events organized by the Global Ecotourism Network and I know some of the experts of the organization. I can confirm that this is a professional, reliable organization and from my professional point of view - this is a key source of knowledge, know how and information exchange on ecotourism worldwide. I would be grateful for some tips on how to improve the description so as it would comply all the Wikipedia principles. Thank you and best greetings from Poland! Dominika       Ekoturystyka (talk) 15:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Ekoturystyka: you need to read and understand the decline reasons and my accompanying comments; those are the issues you need to rectify.
 * Whilst you may not be "representing" the organisation, it does sound like you have a conflict of interest, because of your involvement in their events and your acquaintance with people associated with the organisation. I also note that you have uploaded their logo as your own work, as well as uploading a number of photos suggesting some level of personal involvement. My advice would be to make the COI disclosure as instructed in the message I posted on your talk page. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sure your professional knowledge is of great value, but for the purposes of Wikipedia, anybody's professional knowledge - yours, mine, or a random person's on the internet - is of zero value unless it has been published in a reliable source. Please see the fundamental principle of verifiability.
 * Secondly, whether the organziation exists and is reliable is not relevant. Wikipedia has many articles about things that don't exist, for example unicorn, N-rays, and some about things that exist and are not reliable. What we require is that the subject of an article meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which mostly comes down to the question "Has enough indpendent material about the subject been reliably published to base an article on?" Nothing written, published, or commissioned, by the GEN or its associates, or based on an interview or press release from the GEN or its associates, can contribute at all towards establishing notability. ColinFine (talk) 18:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

15:56, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Artiomis Romanovoja
please tell me what the problem is and what should I fix? Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Artiomis Romanovoja: the draft is entirely unreferenced, which also means there is no evidence of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B
 * this is some information in Russian. this family was very influential and in the middle of the 17th century was part of the government committee of the Russian Empire Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Artiomis Romanovoja: you can't cite a ru.wiki article as a source, and you can't expect readers to go looking for sources on external sites like that. If the ru.wiki article references appropriate sources, you should import them into this draft and cite them here directly. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have corrected something and would like to know your opinion about my article Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Artiomis Romanovoja: I still don't see any referencing there. That being the case, would you like me to decline your draft, or wait for another reviewer to do that?
 * BTW, where is all this information coming from? Do you have some sort of relationship with this subject? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * This information is obtained from books, from some websites, I have read a lot and watched films about this era... I am sure that many people are really interested in the history of the Russian Empire, because if such a format of my page is adopted and people begin to study history more extensively, I would like to continue writing stories of other noble families, such as the Yusupovs, Kutuzovs, Pugachevs, Saltykovs and others.
 * Please let me continue to share information, because history brings people together. Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Artiomis Romanovoja: you may have misunderstood what Wikipedia is all about. We summarise what reliable published sources have said about a subject. We don't publish original research, your own reflections and recollections of what you may have read and watched, and certainly not "stories of noble families". Either support your draft with appropriate sources, or expect to have it declined again, and eventually rejected.
 * Please review Wikipedia's core requirements of notability and verifiability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have added links to the evidence, I hope everything is correct :) Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 17:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

17:06, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Atlantis7807
I understand your intention, and it's important to clarify that my role is to provide assistance and ensure that the content meets certain guidelines and standards. While your article provides information about Arushi Nishank and her accomplishments, it's important to ensure that it adheres to the guidelines and does not appear to be promotional in nature.

To improve the article's presentation, you may want to focus on presenting the information in a more neutral and objective manner. This could involve avoiding language that appears overly promotional or biased, and instead, presenting the facts in a straightforward and factual manner.

Once you've made any necessary revisions, feel free to share the article again for further feedback or approval. Thank you for your understanding. Atlantis7807 (talk) 17:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Why are you posting a message apparently to you? Who is it from, and where?
 * Or is this ChatGPT output?
 * Do you have a question? ColinFine (talk) 18:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

17:27, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Shesoceo
Trizzy is a distinguished producer and rapper hailing from New York. His collaborations with numerous prominent musicians and his achievements as a musician are noteworthy. Assistance in crafting his article would be greatly valued. Shesoceo (talk) 17:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * A musician is not notable by association; they need to meet the definition of a notable musician. That hasn't been demonstrated, which is why the draft was rejected and will not be considered further at this time. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

18:17, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Village of South Zanesville
can you tell me why this article was not approved? Village of South Zanesville (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Village of South Zanesville: this draft is completely unreferenced, with no evidence of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Village of South Zanesville: this draft is completely unreferenced, with no evidence of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

18:39, 6 April 2024 review of submission by Artiomis Romanovoja
Please tell me, is everything written correctly? Artiomis Romanovoja (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The draft is pending and will be reviewed in due course. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)