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= January 15 =

00:59, 15 January 2024 review of submission by 71.105.135.126
Various newer updates have been placed along with more publicity and notable placements have been cited, looking for updated placement and approval of the platform wiki page, specifically since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Terror?wprov=sfti1# has been placed.

There seems to be an overt sense of targeted gate keeping in comparison to other platforms placed with wiki pages 71.105.135.126 (talk) 00:59, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what you're asking, if anything, but this draft has been rejected a long ago, and will therefore not be considered further. If new evidence of notability is now available which wasn't considered at the time, you may make your case directly to the rejecting reviewer. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Your last comment seems to be a reference to Other stuff exists. Unfortunately, Wikipedia has thousands and thousands of articles which, if they were submitted today, would not be accepted. Ideally, these would be improved or deleted, but as this is a volunteer project, people work on what they choose to work on, and that doesn't happen a great deal. ColinFine (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

03:04, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Bhdshoes2
Hi - is there a way to link the Wikidata (Q17123817) number from German Wikipedia to this draft page? Bhdshoes2 (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Bhdshoes2: the links between different projects are added after the draft has been published as an article. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry - I'm unclear - i meant that there's a data number but i don't see a place in the draft side panel to add the wikidata number, not a link to German page. (I assume the number exists in first place bc someone once made a German page). Can a person add a wikidata number to a draft page? Bhdshoes2 (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No. A draft is not (yet) part of the encyclopaedia, and should not be linked to Wikidata. ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

06:27, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Judyvu214
Hi, I've just been denied my draft, how did I make it get approved? I want to provide information, but somehow it's still being considered as promoting action. Can you guide me on how to fix this? Judyvu214 (talk) 06:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Judyvu214: you need to read and understand the relevant notability guidelines, in this case WP:NCORP and WP:GNG, and provide evidence that satisfies either of these. Until you do, and until your draft summarises what reliable and independent sources have said about this company, you're just "telling the world about it", ie. promoting it, by definition. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Judyvu214: you need to read and understand the relevant notability guidelines, in this case WP:NCORP and WP:GNG, and provide evidence that satisfies either of these. Until you do, and until your draft summarises what reliable and independent sources have said about this company, you're just "telling the world about it", ie. promoting it, by definition. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

10:27, 15 January 2024 review of submission by 2001:44C8:41CB:8C2:7821:9AE0:592A:383E
Please tell me whats wrong? I have cited references, theres nothing here from the owner, I followed all your rules. Thank you. 2001:44C8:41CB:8C2:7821:9AE0:592A:383E (talk) 10:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You have two sources (please see referencing for beginners about how to format references) both of which just document the availability of courses, and much of your draft is unsourced; any article about this organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

11:16, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Wdallen49
I'd like to get some assistance in correcting this article for compliance with Wikipedia standards. Is there someone who can help with this? Wdallen49 (talk) 11:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

12:08, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Edward ambele
I need to be directed in this article on how to fix it Edward ambele (talk) 12:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Edward ambele: this draft has been rejected, hence there is nothing to "fix" as it won't be considered further. It is completely unreferenced, with no indication (let alone evidence) of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

13:07, 15 January 2024 review of submission by QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI
please approve this page. because this is most vip of sahiwal pakistan QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI (talk) 13:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

13:09, 15 January 2024 review of submission by QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI
please what a problem QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI (talk) 13:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI: would you say that looks like an encyclopaedia article to you? No, didn't think so.
 * Apart from that, and the complete lack of apparently notability, you shouldn't be writing about yourself in any case, see WP:AUTOBIO. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And please don't post the same question over and over. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

13:14, 15 January 2024 review of submission by QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI
what a problem please help me QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI (talk) 13:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @QARI MUHAMMAD SHAHEER ABDULLAH CISHTI we do not allow promotion of any kind.  Qcne  (talk)  17:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

17:13, 15 January 2024 review of submission by KevinMorgan2
Hi, why is this article being rejected? It is not promotional. KevinMorgan2 (talk) 17:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think you may need to revise your definition of promotional because each and every line of that draft is promotional in nature. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

18:04, 15 January 2024 review of submission by 2601:601:100:D260:B45B:E5C:76D2:CF97
Is there one way I could improve this draft? 2601:601:100:D260:B45B:E5C:76D2:CF97 (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Frankly, no, because it has been rejected and therefore won't be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

19:23, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Dpn427
How do we properly use reliable sources like articles, etc... It seems how I cited information was incorrect. Thank you! Dpn427 (talk) 19:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Answered at the Teahouse (WP:TH). Please don't ask the same question in multiple places. ColinFine (talk) 20:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

21:29, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Trainrobber66
How can I expand on my Draft. I'm in a bit of a pickle on what sources to find about the find and need a bit more guidance on how to add more. trainrobber 21:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * OP blocked for disruption. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

22:35, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Wikipcontributor800
My draft has been declined on ground that it is not adequately supported by reliable sources. But I supported article with resources. I dont know how to proceed further. Wikipcontributor800 (talk) 22:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The sources may be blacklisted. Double check, happened with me. That or they are too flawed even for Wikipedia. Wilhelm444 (talk) 06:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, please don't give misleading answers. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Wikipcontributor800: Goodreads and IMDb are not reliable sources, as already mentioned in the draft comments. Adding citations to section headings is not recommended, as it (among other things) does not make it clear which part(s) of the section is supported. And it would be great if you could translate the 'meta information' in the references; in other words, publication titles can of course be left in the original language (although they can also be additionally translated with the trans-title parameter), but the descriptors and other details should be translated so that it is clear to an English-language reader what the sources actually are.
 * In any case you have resubmitted this, so another reviewer will take a look at some point. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I will not have an answer again. Sorry for the inconvenience. Wilhelm444 (talk) 07:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

23:33, 15 January 2024 review of submission by Justaguy003
Hello,

Which part are you rejecting? The logo is important because of The Long Crimson Line, which is sourced. The topic itself is important because it is a Veterans society with a long ranging benefits for Veterans. Justaguy003 (talk) 23:33, 15 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Justaguy003: what do you mean 'which part'? The whole draft has been rejected. That's because there is no indication that the subject is notable. It cites only one close primary source, whereas we need to see significant coverage in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. And the reviewer felt that for a society founded only two months ago, such sources are highly unlikely to exist, hence why they rejected rather than merely declined the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)