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= January 21 =

06:23, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Vamshikadiyam
i'm new to wikipedia.I want to create wikipedia for an actor  Vamshikadiyam (talk) 06:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Vamshikadiyam: okay.. that's not a question, though.
 * You'll need to demonstrate that the person is notable either per WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * the draft article that i mentioned above plz make it live to main space Vamshikadiyam (talk) 06:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

12:12, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Frankywright
I am new to publishing my Biography on Wikipedia. I tried to include links to help search some of the information I included but it seems the links are not accepted. Please can you tell me what I need to add or remove to help my page go online Frankywright (talk) 12:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves, please read the autobiography policy. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of notability- like a notable person. Put another way, we don't want to know what you say is important about yourself, we want to know what others unaffiliated with you say is important about you.
 * You have no sources in your draft at all, and seems to read like a social media-style page. Names of minor children are not included in articles about a person unless those children themselves merit articles. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * How does someone like me with very little online presence publish my Biography? Is it only for celebrities? As a normal everyday person without much happening in my public life, I do not have many places online I can point to as sources. Please can you advise how I can resolve this? I am only trying to create a presence online. Frankywright (talk) 13:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please read the Five Pillars of Wikipedia. You misunderstand what it is we do here on Wikipedia. This is not social media where people tell about themselves, and we are not concerned with the "online presence" of anyone. If you are a "normal, everyday person", it is doubtful that you merit a Wikipedia article.  The vast majority of the 8 billion people on this planet do not; I certainly do not.  If independent reliable sources do not on their own write about you and tell what makes you important, you do not merit a Wikipedia article. I don't mean to sound mean, I'm just trying to explain this to you clearly.  I suggest that you focus your efforts on actual social media websites, like Facebook/LinkedIn/or others, or create a personal website to tell the world about yourself. 331dot (talk) 13:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

13:32, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Phyominsanofficialaccount
Why did you enter? Phyominsanofficialaccount (talk) 13:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you are asking, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 13:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

16:11, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Harmanderr
Why my article is getting rejected it is about very famous book Manipulated lives, please check it again Harmanderr (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like you are trying to promote your own book largely using Amazon as a reference, that is not an independent source. Theroadislong (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No it is not a "very famous book". It was self published last November with no indication of anyone noticing hence your here trying to promote it and yourself. The 'article' is pure puff and promotion with zero independent sources. KylieTastic (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

16:35, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Mikas1990
J.league Mikas1990 (talk) 16:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * User blocked. S0091 (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

17:01, 21 January 2024 review of submission by TNM101
Can someone please help to find reliable sources for this article? TNM101 (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello. It is unlikely that anybody here will be willing to spend time looking for sources for your draft. You are the one who wants to create the article, so it is your job to find the sources. If you have looked for and failed to find the sources, it is very likely that the school does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and that any further time you (or anybody else) spend on the draft will be time wasted. ColinFine (talk) 20:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

18:12, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Interstellaradrian
Warmest greetings! I'm preparing to submit an updated draft for review. I went through the process of improving the copy to reach a neutral state but would certainly appreciate a second opinion on whether I need to add anything else here to improve the approval odds. I did my best in discovering as many references as I could here and it feels like a worthy entry. But as this is my first full page, confrimation is apprecaited and I'd like to get this one completed before starting on other pages. Thank you in advance. Interstellaradrian (talk) 18:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You need to submit in order to get a review, but note that their own website is not an independent source neither are press releases. The leadership and logo sections are of little interest to Wikipedia. Be sure to declare any conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 18:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

18:19, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Aiinceku
What is required to submit this for review? Aiinceku (talk) 18:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Aiinceku Nothing, as I rejected it.  Qcne  (talk)  18:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An article on Tsarfati was deleted last month because sufficient independent reliable sources did not exist to base an article on: see WP:Articles for deletion/Amir Tsarfati. Only once several people, wholly unconnected with Tsarfati, have chosen to write at length about him, and been published in reliable sources will it be possible for anybody to write an acceptable Wikipedia article about him. ColinFine (talk) 20:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

19:40, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Trumpetguy19
To whom it may concern, I replied to Johannes's decline comment about unreliable sources, but I'd like to know which sources specifically seem to violate the reliable sourcing policy. I'm a fairly new editor so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Trumpetguy19 (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Trumpetguy19: user-generated content is not considered reliable, as anyone can say pretty much anything they want; in the case of your draft, this means Weebly, Wordpress, Vimeo, YouTube (unless it's an unedited video published directly by a reliable source), and Facebook. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi DoubleGrazing. Thanks for the feedback. I’ll go back in and remove the self-published stuff. Quick question though, how do I show that a YouTube video is unedited from a reliable source? Also one of the Wordpress sources is an official website of the local history division of the local library in Rochester. Is it still unreliable due to source type regardless of author? Trumpetguy19 (talk) 13:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Trumpetguy19. YouTube content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organisation, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability. The key thing to ask is "Does this account have editorial oversight?".
 * The Wordpress blog is fine, as it is coming from the subject matter expert (the Library).
 * I would just add you should only have one or two external links as per WP:EXTERNAL.  Qcne  (talk)  13:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Trumpetguy19: if the YouTube video is published on the official channel of a reliable source (especially the original one), we can assume it to be legit; anything else, I'd be cautious, as it's far too easy for anyone to 'doctor' the content.
 * As for the WordPress blog, it may well be the "official website" of an organisation, but it is still a blog, ie. a primary source with almost certainly very little or no editorial control. It's not that you categorically cannot cite a source like that, but you should certainly keep such citations to a minimum. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

19:47, 21 January 2024 review of submission by FMurano
my recent submission was rejected because the lack of reliable sources. In case of a biography of a living person what is a reliable source other than his/her personal page and CV? FMurano (talk) 19:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You need to find sources wholly unconnected with the subject. ColinFine (talk) 20:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You need to find sources wholly unconnected with the subject. ColinFine (talk) 20:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)