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= January 3 =

02:11, 3 January 2024 review of submission by 172.113.157.142
I'm not sure why my entree was declined. I read the explanation by the reviewer, but didn't understand it. I cited 5 different news sources to back up my writing. All the sources are very much so reliable. Long Beach Post is one of the main news sources in Long Beach, California, USA. Glas Srpske is literally one of the oldest and most reputable newspapers in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Similarly, when speaking about film news and film critiques in specific, Film Threat is one of the more known film reviewers.

I was planning to expend on this topic, too, but to my understanding, articles can start small and then be expended on once published. Am I not right about that? I basically didn't want to do too much work on this article, or any other future article for that matter, until they don't get approved/published first because what's the point of spending hours and hours of research and writing just to be declined in the end? Honestly, that is one of my biggest fears. I don't have that much free time on my hands to do all this work and then go nowhere with it. I hope you understand what I'm talking about here.

In any case, I would appreciate if someone could explain to me why this specific entree was declined because if I want to fix it and resubmit it, I obviously would first need to know what was the actual issue with it. I'm not an experienced Wiki writer – this was my first attempt – but I felt I did a pretty good job of finding some legitimate information about the topic and referencing enough of different reliable news sources to back up my findings. 172.113.157.142 (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The relevant SNG notability guideline for the subject is WP:NDIRECTOR, which it doesn't meet. Therefore, you need to establish notability following WP:GNG guidelines. The sources you provided don't offer significant coverage of the subject. Now, you need to add at least three reliable secondary sources that provide significant coverage of the subject and are independent of it. Regarding your other question about expanding the article after creation, yes, you can expand an article later, but there should be a minimum context in the article initially. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please read Help:Your first article. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your input. I'll visit the pages you linked me to and see if I can fix the issue. This director is by no means Stanley Kubrick, but I saw his film Toni at the film festival in Tacoma a couple of months ago and felt like more people should know about him. 172.113.157.142 (talk) 02:54, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello. Note that "more people should know about him" is explicitly not a good reason to write a Wikipedia article: it is exactly what Wikipedia means by promotion, which is forbidden.
 * Wikipedia isn't interested in a subject until several other people with no connection to the subject have chosen to write at some length about the subject. ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

02:42, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Reghvargas
Goo day! I'm requesting assistance due to my article not approve or declined because it says the topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I need help with this problem issue am experiencing. I want a published my own article in internet via Wikipedia to know everyone who am. Rest assured that the article I created is simple, reliable, and sourcesable for each person search me on the web. Please let know that the "References" is correct, verified, which is the official website of my media broadcasting company/studio/radio station here in my workplace at municipality of caluya antique philippines. Hope can help me to this and I thank you! Reghvargas (talk) 02:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Reghvargas: your draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Please note that writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * , your references are not independent of the topic, and without references to reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the topic (Regie Tablate), the draft cannot possibly be accepted. Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY to learn why what you are trying to do is a bad idea. Cullen328 (talk) 02:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, it's important to note that you cannot use a primary source to establish notability or support any statement in a BLP; secondary sources are required. – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

03:23, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Ditri Charron
Please help me with the text about our company. At a time when every minor celebrity has a Wiki page. I am unable to add information about our company, which operates worldwide. I will be grateful for any help. Ditri Charron (talk) 03:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Ditri Charron, the company should adhere to WP:NCORP for Wikipedia inclusion. It needs significant coverage in independent, reliable sources that can be summarized in the article. If you're connected with this company, disclosure is required; please refer to WP:PAID and WP:COI. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, for the info. Please do you think, that the coverage is OK now? Because i do not know, what more than the industry patents can company do for their references. I do not have more references now. Dou you think that i have chance to put the company on wiki? I will take the look on WP:PAID and WP:COI but im manager from the company. Thank you so, so much for the info and best regars. Ditri Charron (talk) 03:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No, with the current content and sources, it is not notable; that's why it was declined. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Ditri Charron (talk) 04:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

06:06, 3 January 2024 review of submission by 2.50.172.101
Why is this article rejected when the entity has credible independent news sources? 2.50.172.101 (talk) 06:06, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * At first glance, this appears to fall under WP:BLP1E as almost all of the sources focus on when Narendra Modi praised him for his skill. However, his involvement in the WorldSkills championship is a second significant event, which could justify a standalone article. Nonetheless, since it was created by a sockpuppet and a previous reviewer suggested disclosing any potential conflicts of interest, it's necessary to disclose any connection you may have with the subject. Please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * But the entity has enough independent news articles written about him. As per the research, find the below mentioned articles with respect to the already added ones in the draft.
 * https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/art/twenty-two-year-old-graphic-artist-talks-about-his-varied-awards-and-prizes-he-has-accumulated-over-the-years/article67387932.ece
 * https://bangaloremirror.indiatimes.com/bangalore/others/graphic-skills-bengalurean-reigns-supreme/articleshow/103409985.cms
 * https://www.globalindian.com/youth/story/global-indian-exclusive/steven-harris-ramdev-from-worldskills-victory-to-global-mentorship/
 * https://www.deccanherald.com/india/karnataka/bengaluru/heartwarming-bengalurean-artist-wows-pm-modi-1023844.html
 * Kindly refer to these sources that indicate as independent articles about the entity and do the needful. Thank you. 2.50.172.101 (talk) 09:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * What you say about sources does not negate the point made about BLP1E.
 * You were also asked to disclose any COI you may have in this matter.
 * I note that you have resubmitted the draft without any improvement, or without addressing the COI issue. If you keep doing that, this draft can and eventually will be rejected without option to resubmit. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I will also inform you that "do the needful" is generally considered rude outside of India. 331dot (talk) 12:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

08:45, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Floh Kenya
how do i reference my own biography? Floh Kenya (talk) 08:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * don't. stop writing about yourself. ltb d l (talk) 08:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Floh Kenya: the short answer is, you shouldn't be writing your own biography in the first place, see WP:AUTOBIO.
 * The slightly longer answer is, you shouldn't be writing what you know about yourself, but only summarising what reliable and independent secondary sources have said about you. You then cite those sources, and there's your referencing. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

09:57, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Vairankodepooram20
my Wikipedia Articles rejected or ???? if there is any mistake please let me know i Need help Vairankodepooram20 (talk) 09:57, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Vairankodepooram20: this draft (not yet an article) has, indeed, been rejected, and won't therefore be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Vairankodepooram20 Please read through the referencing tutorial at WP:INTREFVE. Once you understand how to reference using in-line citations, you may ping me on my user talk page and I will look at this draft again.  Qcne  (talk)  10:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

15:22, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Niklas.Andersson.95
Hi!

I want some help with the Theoria page. I have been working on it since last year, but then I needed to focus on other things. Now I want to come back and complete the page. As it stands right now, it says the page needs either more citations or to remove passages that are unsupported or too promotional. Is there anyone who could guide me through each part so I can make the necessary edits?

Thanks in advance! Niklas.Andersson.95 (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Niklas.Andersson.95: the feedback provided by the last reviewer is still relevant, and you can improve it accordingly. In summary, please add reliable secondary sources or remove unsourced paragraphs. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, thank you for the quick response! Can I see where these sections need to be either removed or edited, meaning, have they been marked somehow? Niklas.Andersson.95 (talk) 15:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Niklas.Andersson.95 Ideally every fact, assertation, paragraph, or section should be appropriately sourced (going in order from most common to least).  Qcne  (talk)  15:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * For instance, the 'Abstracting and Indexing' section in the draft lacks sources; hence, you need to add reliable sources for all the entries in this section. If you're unable to find sources to support certain statements, consider removing the unsourced material. – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 15:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, this is most helpful, thanks! I am kind of relearning editing on Wikipedia as it has been a while now. Is it okay to ask here again about the editing of the page? Niklas.Andersson.95 (talk) 15:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Don't worry at all! Feel free to ask anytime, just make sure to add your question in this same section and ping me so I can help. – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

16:00, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Mayukhjitc
i have seen on "WP:MN" that i do qualify for musician notability due to rule 9. Mayukhjitc (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Mayukhjitc: your draft has been rejected, so it will not be considered further. Please note that writing biographies is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * yes, i understand it has been rejected but is there nothing i can do about it......
 * it was rejected by qcne and his/her only reason of rejection was notability
 * however, i do qualify for notability and have replied there.... stil no reply form him/her
 * could you read my draft Mayukhjitc (talk) 16:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Answered on my User Talk page, we're all volunteers so I don't think an 18 minute wait between your post and my reply is particularly long!  Qcne  (talk)  16:16, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * yes sorry..... my bad Mayukhjitc (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you truly do meet the definition of a notable musician, someone will eventually write about you. Articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the subject.
 * I suggest that you read with a parent or guardian this page about how an article is not necessarily a good thing. There are good reasons to not want one. My advice is that you go on about your music career and forget about Wikipedia, and if you truly are notable, an article will organically develop.  Trying to force the issue is rarely successful. 331dot (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd also suggest that you read this page with a parent or guardian. 331dot (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * You cite Rule 9 ("Has won first, second, or third place in a major music competition.") but your draft didn't describe you winning a major music competition. 331dot (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

16:00, 3 January 2024 review of submission by 5.195.38.6
Could you please create living person's biography 5.195.38.6 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * This draft has been rejected, so it will not be considered further. – <b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b> (talk) 16:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Not every living person merits a Wikipedia article- the overwhelming majority of the 8 billion people on this planet do not. This isn't like social media where anyone that exists merits inclusion- there must be coverage of this person in independent reliable sources like the news that can then be summarized in an article. Your draft was rejected because you offered no sources at all. 331dot (talk) 16:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

16:59, 3 January 2024 review of submission by 2600:1700:D3F0:C250:55B1:D3A8:6F69:F490
I would like to understand about the notability reason about your rejection. Obviously, Josammy Technology is the greatest wonder that is accomplished to rehabilitate and satisfy human curiosity in all levels of science and their life. It is notably meant for laymen, scientists, and philosophers who are focusing on the hardest and critical questions relating our existence and our presence in planet. Josammy technology solve all universe enigma and explains the reactivities of dark energy and dark matter. The composition of dark matter and dark energy is 95% of universe. This scientist should understand the reactivities of dark energy otherwise they mislead people. Dark energy is the clue of science and  universe comprehension. Josammy technology is the highest world technology that displays and explains all the reactivities of dark energy, dark matter, Higgs Boson reactivities, superconductivities and superfluidity reactivities. However, gravity has been poorly explained since the earliest time mankind still have enigma and low level of science comprehension. I believe it would be worth trying to learn about real universe with technology Josammy. 2600:1700:D3F0:C250:55B1:D3A8:6F69:F490 (talk) 16:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 17:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Seawolf35 Why be so rude about it bruh???/ Still This is not neutral and is biased. You literally said "Obviously, Josammy Technology is the greatest wonder" and so on. think about it your self.
 * Please don't react @Seawolf35 and backfire on my page. Im just being honest and giving you tips, though i am a starter True cr1m33 (talk) 22:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @True cr1m33 I am sorry how is this relevant, and I did not say that. The draft was deleted under WP:G11 for being promotional. Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 22:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Seawolf35 im sorry i didnt know. But above in the large paragraph it says that. I assumed it was u as ur name is signed underneath. Srry True cr1m33 (talk) 14:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

17:15, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Aminur7699
Please review my page Aminur7699 (talk) 17:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Aminur7699 We don’t do pre reviews here, but your draft would be rejected if you submitted it. Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 17:44, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

18:05, 3 January 2024 review of submission by True cr1m33
I got declined because apparently it was unreliable and false and didn't describe enough? So i will keep trying to edit my writing wiki. 'kay. But i would like to ask how to make it more reliable and to use references. i appeal to get mine published.

Sorry if if i seemed rude im extremely thankful to wiki. *smiley* Pls answer my query  True cr1m33 (talk) 18:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @True cr1m33, I think your draft would be better suited to https://a-good-girls-guide-to-murder.fandom.com (the Fandom Wiki) for this book series, not Wikipedia.
 * I am afraid we don't accept articles about fictional characters with no sources, written in the way you wrote your draft.  Qcne  (talk)  18:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey @Qcne, thank you for your speedy reply and telling me about fandom wiki as that is a lot more helpful for me if i want to write about fictional characters. @Qcne D'you think it's a good idea to write about a recap of 2023 (celeb edition). *love heart* thanks for your time and dedication
 * yours @True cr1m33 True cr1m33 (talk) 22:17, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

18:29, 3 January 2024 review of submission by 2601:5C2:202:2700:7466:1C0E:800E:3EA0
My article said "Congratulations" and accepted as start-class. What does that mean? 2601:5C2:202:2700:7466:1C0E:800E:3EA0 (talk) 18:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * It means 'congratulations', your draft has been accepted and published as an article in the encyclopaedia; and it has been rated as 'start' class, meaning it's a good start but there's still plenty of potential for further improvement. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

22:14, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Aw.griffioen
This page (Draft:IBoost_technology) was rejected for unknown reasons. It mentions 'do not cite predatory journals'. To my knowledge, there are only citations to legitimate high-impact scientific journals. Please help mewith solving this issue. Aw.griffioen (talk) 22:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * About predatory journals: I suggest you ask (who made the comment) which citations he is unhappy with.
 * But I also need to ask whether you are familiar with the stricter requirements on sourcing for articles on medical subjects: WP:MEDRS? ColinFine (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia marks predatory journals with a virtual highlighter, so it's pretty easy to spot.
 * I suggest putting effort into drafting articles; refbombing, i.e., adding a stupidly high number of footnotes to a sentence to make it seem more profound, does not count as such, especially when there was obviously no effort put into choosing good sources to cite. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 22:52, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

22:49, 3 January 2024 review of submission by Dvisionentmt
How can I make this subject look notable to Wikipedia. Dvisionentmt (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Dvisionentmt I am sorry but no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. I would would strongly encourage you to not write about yourself, writing about yourself means you have a large conflict of interest with the subject of your draft. Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 23:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've submitted the correct amount of information and sources to note Tina Moreni who is an American rapper, I am not her but it's surprising to me that she has yet to have a Wikipedia article. Would love to receive some help as there are plenty of articles about her yet none were seemed notable to Wikipedia. Dvisionentmt (talk) 23:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Dvisionentmt I am not going to overturn the rejection of the last reviewer, you can appeal to them at User talk:DreamRimmer if you think you have sources that support the notability of the subject.
 * courtesy ping. Seawolf35 <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">T--C 23:25, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * OP blocked for username and promotion. 331dot (talk) 23:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC)