Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk/Archives/2024 June 14

= June 14 =

07:38, 14 June 2024 review of submission by Thekhyberboypk
Dear Wikipedia Team,

I am writing to request your assistance in creating a Wikipedia page for Metrix Pakistan, a organization working in underprivileged areas of Pakistan.

About Metrix Pakistan:

Metrix Pakistan is dedicated to [ Metrix Pakistan is an organization established in May 2022 by Hassan Nisar. Headquartered in Pakistan, the organization focuses on promoting technological education and entrepreneurship in rural areas. Its primary objective is to create a sustainable ecosystem in underprivileged regions, bridging the gap in access to technology and educational resources. Through innovative initiatives and collaborative efforts, Metrix Pakistan strives to drive economic growth, social progress, and community empowerment in Pakistan's rural communities.

Previous Attempts:

We previously attempted to create a page for Metrix Pakistan but it was unfortunately rejected. We understand the importance of providing reliable sources and meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines.

Request for Assistance:

We kindly request your guidance on creating a compelling and informative draft that meets Wikipedia's standards. We have compiled over 36 reputable news links about Metrix Pakistan, but we are open to alternative strategies for demonstrating their notability. Thank You:

We appreciate your time and support in helping us create a Wikipedia page for this impactful organization.

Sincerely, Thekhyberboypk (talk) 07:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Thekhyberboypk first of all, the references are poorly formatted, see Help:Referencing for beginners. I haven't taken a look at all the sources yet, but I noticed around half of them are written by "Web Desk". Who is that? Also, who's "we"? The draft needs multiple reliable independent sources that have significant coverage on the subject.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 07:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate your guidance on the importance of properly formatted references and will review Help for beginners to improve the formatting.
 * Regarding your question about the sources attributed to "Web Desk," this term refers to articles written by the web department of reputable newspapers. These are typically staff-written pieces that do not attribute a single author but are published by the editorial team of the news outlet. Thekhyberboypk (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Thekhyberboypk: firstly, who is "we" in your question? Please note that Wikipedia user accounts are strictly for one individual's use only. If more than one of you are using the account, the others must set up their own accounts.
 * Secondly, what is your relationship with this organisation, are you eg. an employee or a volunteer? I will post a conflict-of-interest (COI) query on your talk page, please respond to it.
 * As for your question, the notability standard you need to meet is WP:ORG. Please study it carefully, so you understand what is expected. Then choose the best 3-5 (not 35!) sources that meet that standard, and summarise what they have said about the organisation, citing them as your references. This gives you the appropriate content and the necessary proof of notability all in one go. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I would like to clarify that I am a volunteer with this organization. The organization is dedicated to working in underprivileged areas of Pakistan. I am not an employee, and I do not receive any compensation or benefits from the organization for my contributions.
 * I hope this provides the necessary context to address any potential conflict of interest concerns. Please feel free to ask any further questions or request additional information if needed. Thekhyberboypk (talk) 07:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Thekhyberboypk: in that case, please make the COI disclosure as instructed on your talk page, as you still have a COI even if you are not paid for your efforts (which would make you subject to the related but more specific paid-editing COI rules). Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your guidance. I have made the COI disclosure as instructed on my talk page.
 * To clarify, I am a volunteer with the organization, which works in underprivileged areas of Pakistan. Although I am not paid for my efforts, I understand that this still constitutes a conflict of interest, and I will adhere to the related COI guidelines.
 * I appreciate your assistance and will ensure all contributions meet Wikipedia’s standards for neutrality, reliability, and notability. Thekhyberboypk (talk) 08:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you think that you disclosed, you didn't- at least I don't see where you did. You need to do this on your user page(click your username to access your user page). 331dot (talk) 08:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft submission process, that a draft may not be resubmitted.  Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
 * If you are associated with this organization, that must be declared, see conflict of interest and paid editing. I would also add that only a single person should have exclusive access to this account, and they may not share access.
 * I'm glad that this organization does good work, but Wikipedia is not for merely telling the world about good works. Any article about this organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  You have provided a list of sources, but not summarized their contents- and it seems that the sources just tell of the activities of the organization.  That's not significant coverage, we are looking for sources that on their own, and not based on materials from the organization(like interviews and press releases), tell what they see as important/significant/influential about the organization. 331dot (talk) 07:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your feedback. I have added the categories you mentioned and included all reputable links to support the content.
 * To address the conflict of interest (COI) concern, I would like to clarify that I am a volunteer with this organization, which works in underprivileged areas of Pakistan. My involvement does not include any paid activities, and I have declared my association as per Wikipedia guidelines.
 * I understand that Wikipedia articles must summarize significant coverage from independent and reliable sources. I have reviewed the sources provided and ensured they are independent, with significant coverage not based solely on materials from the organization such as interviews and press releases. The sources highlight what third parties see as important, significant, and influential about the organization's work.
 * Additionally, I confirm that only a single person has exclusive access to this account, and it is not shared with others.
 * Thank you for your guidance. I will continue to refine the draft to ensure it meets Wikipedia's standards for notability and reliable sourcing. Thekhyberboypk (talk) 07:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that being a volunteer can still be "paid" editing, if you intend to put the experience on a resume to obtain a paying job later. Could you put the three (and only three, please) sources that you feel do as I've described?  Because I didn't see such sources, but maybe I missed it. 331dot (talk) 08:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks,
 * You can check google " Metrix Pakistan" there are many articles. 39.41.148.1 (talk) 08:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Remember to log in when posting. It's not up to me to make your case for you, please provide the three sources you best feel provide significant coverage of this organization. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

12:03, 14 June 2024 review of submission by Alejandro Magno de
I think this article should be created by a specialist. The article meets Wikipedia requirements and guidelines. I think Wikipedia should contain information from relevant people. I have seen pages that do not contribute anything here but nevertheless they are still here, Whether on a whim or because someone authorized simply created it and still keeps it (under custody )the disadvantages is unfair. Alejandro Magno de (talk) 12:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I fixed your link, it needs the "Draft:" portion. Please see other stuff exists. Articles are not judged based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inappropriate and just not removed yet, and as a new user you would be unaware of what is appropriate. Your draft is poorly sourced and shows no indication of notability. Please see the comments left by the reviewer, as well as the policies linked to. 331dot (talk) 12:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)