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= June 17 =

01:23, 17 June 2024 review of submission by Electric design
Dear Wikipedia,

I would like to create an English version of the following page. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%97%E6%9C%AC%E5%BA%B7%E5%85%B5

I have made repeated revisions following your instructions, but it was ultimately rejected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:K%C5%8Dhei_Munemoto

How can I post an English version on Wikipedia in the future?

I just want to post an English translation of an existing Japanese page.

Thank you in advance. Electric design (talk) 01:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Please see translation. If the ja-wiki article is sourced to the standard that is a non-negotiable requirement for new articles in en-wiki, then you may translate it. Most existing articles in most versions of Wikipedia (including many older articles in en-wiki, by the way) are not sourced to that level, and simply translating them will not generate something which is acceptable in en-wiki. ColinFine (talk) 20:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

08:31, 17 June 2024 review of submission by 39.41.181.140
Subject: Request for Reconsideration and Support for Metrix Pakistan Wikipedia Draft Page

Dear Wikipedia Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to request your reconsideration and support for the Metrix Pakistan Wikipedia draft page, which was recently rejected. I understand that the page may not have met the necessary criteria at the time, but I would like to bring to your attention that Metrix Pakistan is a reputable organization doing remarkable work in Pakistan.

We plan to add more comprehensive information to the page, including details about their projects, achievements, and impact on the community. We believe that Metrix Pakistan's contributions warrant a Wikipedia page, and we would like to request your assistance in making that possible.

Please consider changing the status of the draft page and providing guidance on how we can improve it to meet Wikipedia's standards. We appreciate your time and support in promoting valuable content and recognizing deserving organizations like Metrix Pakistan.

Thank you for your consideration. 39.41.181.140 (talk) 08:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Please tell us who "we" is. If you represent this organization, that must be disclosed, please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. Note that the reputability and work of the organization is not relevant as far as we are concerned, we are only concerned with if the organization receives significant coverage in independent reliable sources, coverage that doesn't just document its existence and activities, but goes into detail about how the sources see it as important/significant/influential as an organization, how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.
 * Rejection typically means that the draft will not be considered further. If you can fundamentally change the draft to address the concerns of reviewers, you should first appeal to the last reviewer directly. 331dot (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Also see WP:NOBLE. 331dot (talk) 08:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Metrix Pakistan Wikipedia page that I created, which was recently declined, Although I understand the decision, I'm eager to enhance the page and showcase the organization's remarkable achievements. Going forward, I plan to add more detailed information, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance and support in this process. Could you kindly reconsider the page's status and provide feedback on how to improve it to meet Wikipedia's standards? I'm committed to creating a comprehensive and accurate page that highlights Metrix Pakistan's valuable contributions. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response. 39.41.181.140 (talk) 09:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Please don't make a duplicate thread; please edit this existing thread, and respond to my post above. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Assuming you're, please log in when editing, as already previously pointed out. And please make the COI disclosure that you said you had made, but which I still can't find anywhere. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message. I apologize for not logging in when editing, and I will make sure to do so going forward.Regarding the Conflict of Interest (COI) disclosure, I understand the requirement and hereby disclose that I have a connection with Metrix Pakistan. I, Thekhyberboypk, have a vested interest in the content of this page as a volunteer for Metrix Pakistan Thekhyberboypk (talk) 10:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thekhyberboypk (talk) 10:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Thekhyberboypk: yes, thank you, you said that already before. However, this needs to be stated either on your user page, or on the talk page of every article and draft to which the COI relates, or both. This thread will be archived in a matter of days, and in any case no one is likely to come here looking for the disclosure. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

A comment on your references: the five-sentence draft has 35 references all placed at the end of the draft. That is not how referencing should be done, and more references does not equal better referencing. There's a brief explanation of this in the sections "Relevance" and "Copies" on this page of advice. --bonadea contributions talk 09:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

12:59, 17 June 2024 review of submission by Chibuzookoro
Please why hasn't my draft been reviewed? Chibuzookoro (talk) 12:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Chibuzookoro please be patient. Like the template says, This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,280 pending submissions waiting for review..   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 13:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

13:39, 17 June 2024 review of submission by 2600:1700:4811:5F0:B463:EEAB:2F9C:1F5C
I am totally okay with my article being declined. However, the comment says that I can continue to edit the article on Tesla, Inc, but that article is off limits for public editing. Is it possible to open up that article for editing? Thanks! 2600:1700:4811:5F0:B463:EEAB:2F9C:1F5C (talk) 13:39, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The Tesla, Inc. article is indefinitely semi-protected, meaning only autoconfirmed users can edit it. You can use the edit semi-protected template on the article's talk page, and someone will make the edits on your behalf. Alternatively, you can create an account and wait until you're autoconfirmed (10 edits and 4 days).   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 13:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

16:30, 17 June 2024 review of submission by Uohabacasu
Hello,

The draft article for Hassan Nisar Haripur was recently declined due to concerns about the references not meeting the notability guidelines. However, the sources mentioned in the article are from reputable newspapers in Pakistan, including Dawn and The Tribune, which are considered the most prestigious papers in the country.

Could clarification be provided on why these sources were not considered sufficient to establish notability? What specific issues are present with the references, and how can they be improved to meet Wikipedia's standards?

What steps need to be taken to address the concerns raised by the reviewer and resubmit the article? Uohabacasu (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm assuming it's not a coincidence that we have at the same time drafts being submitted on Metrix Pakistan and its founder. How did you pick this particular subject to write about, @Uohabacasu? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The subject of Hassan Nisar Haripur was selected for encyclopedic coverage based on available sources and potential notability. Per Wikipedia's guidelines, any person, organization, or topic may be the subject of a Wikipedia article if it has been covered in reliable sources. The draft article was created to provide a neutral and verifiable summary of the subject, using information available in published sources Uohabacasu (talk) 16:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Uohabacasu: okay, thanks for explaining to me how Wikipedia works. That didn't really answer my question, though. Of all the imaginable topics that "may be the subject of a Wikipedia article", how did you choose this particular one? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The implication that there may be a conflict of interest or ulterior motive in choosing this topic is unfounded. The creation of a Wikipedia article on Hassan Nisar Haripur is solely based on the availability of credible sources and the subject's potential notability. As a contributor, the goal is to provide accurate and reliable information, adhering to Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. The selection of this topic is not influenced by personal connections or biases, but rather a genuine interest in sharing verifiable knowledge with the public. Uohabacasu (talk) 17:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You have already disclosed that you have a connection to Hassan Nisar Haripur. You might not realise that this does give you a potential conflict of interest, so please familiarise yourself with the Conflict of Interest guidelines.
 * Please do not create new threads on this help board or elsewhere to ask for a new review. Discussions are difgicult to follow if they are duplicated in several places, and the administrators' noticeboard is not for asking about draft reviews. --bonadea contributions talk 09:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

16:37, 17 June 2024 review of submission by Tedleisenring
does this article have a chance of being published? if not ; should I delete it Tedleisenring (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * With no references it has zero chance of being acceptable. Theroadislong (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Tedleisenring: I'd say it has no chance of being published, given that (among other things) it has been rejected.
 * It would have been automatically deleted in a couple of weeks' time, had you not edited it today. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^&lowbar;^v  threads critiques 23:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

16:54, 17 June 2024 review of submission by Hinterking
How can I improve the Article Hinterking (talk) 16:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

How can I improve the Article to have a space please Hinterking (talk) 16:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You have no usable sources. This is not acceptable. —Jéské Couriano v^&lowbar;^v  threads critiques 17:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Writing an article without first finding sources that meet the criteria in golden rule is like building a house without first surveying the site or checking local building regulations. The house will almost certainly fall down, or you will be required to make such large changes that you might as well demolish in and start again.
 * Please read BACKWARDS. ColinFine (talk) 20:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

22:11, 17 June 2024 review of submission by DarthDajic
Your system made a fault in identifying that the corresponding article is in Croatian i.e. hr.wikipedia while the corresponding article is in Serbian on sr. wikipedia. We are kindly asking you to correct this fault and find the reason why the confusion happened as we would like to avoid potential problems in future searching of the article, DarthDajic (talk) 22:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That template has been there since the first edit on the page. Odds are that something you did in the Wizard caused it to misidentify the source language. You can easily modify the template yourself, replacing "hr" with "sr". —Jéské Couriano v^&lowbar;^v  threads critiques 22:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)