Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian rules football/Quiz/Archive7

Q121
Let's keep the South Australian/AFL theme running for a while, but hopefully easier for non-SA people.

An SANFL Hall of Fame member who played in "only" three decades and was a leading club administrator had two sons who were premiership players at his SANFL club before they went on to play VFL/AFL football. Name the two sons. As per Roisterer's rules, bonus point for naming Dad and second bonus point for nicknames. Pudgey 10:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Stephen "Sticks" and David Kernahan. Harry is the father.  --Roisterer 12:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct (and obviously too easy). Stephen played in the 1985 winning SANFL grand final for Glenelg; David "Dooza" Kernahan played in both 1985 and 1986 SANFL premierships before joining his brother at Carlton. And Dad was "Harry the Horse" Kernahan. A contemporary of the great Bill Wedding, Harry famously continued playing with a broken collarbone(!) in a 1962 Inter-League clash against WA in Perth, helping SA win the match.  Pudgey 21:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Q122
Who was the Queensland born player who played for Geelong in the early 80s? It seems AFL Queensland award a medal in his name. --Roisterer 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I can't really think of a clue for this, other than the player in question has a somewhat unusual first name and shares his last name with a former full forward turned media identity. --Roisterer 10:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Zane Taylor? (based on the clues) Pudgey 08:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent work. I remember there was a bit in the media at the time about how Taylor was a good example of the possibilities of Queensland as a recruiting zone.  A couple of years after him came Dunstall, and last year we had 11 Queenslanders drafted.  --Roisterer 08:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Q123
Unusual names and moving to Victoria, hmmm ... who was the great Western Australian player who started with Subiaco; moved east, playing in a winning VFL Grand Final; and then was lured to a second VFL club as player-coach? Pudgey 09:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A clue then. He moved east at the time of the Great Depression and was part of the famous 'foreign legion' at South Melbourne. Sadly he lacks his own article on Wikipedia as yet, although he is mentioned 3 times in articles. Pudgey 08:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's starting to seem like it's just Pudgey & me anwering questions; Brighton Diggins? --Roisterer 10:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'm watchin' but don't know the answers. &mdash;Moondyne 10:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct, Brighton Diggins it was. Played in a losing Grand Final with Subi in 1931, then was BOG for South's in their 1933 win over Richmond, and in 1937 tried to accept an offer of captain-coach from Carlton, but South's wouldn't clear him.  He stood out of football for year to be able to transfer then captain-coached Carlton to their 1938 victory over Collingwood. Mostly a ruckman, he also played in the key positions as needed.  We truly must write him up one day.  Pudgey
 * I usually do my research at fullpointsfooty.net, which is a fantastic resource. I don't know who runs the site but I doff my hat to him/her.   Roisterer 11:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fullpointsfooty = John Devaney. Lovely man, and will respond to genuine queries/comments/input.  Not only has he created a mammoth resource, it is generally reliable as well as he does his research before publishing.Pudgey 21:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Q 124
Sorry for the delay, I have drawn a blank about questions and so can only ask the following: Which AFL club offered Glenelg ruckman Peter Carey a then record $1000 per match? Carey attended one training session, said it looked too much like hard work and went back to Glenelg. --Roisterer 00:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought Peter Carey was an umpire? :S or :P Anyway in days gone by, SANFL clubs often linked with VFL clubs based on simple stuff like colours, so I'm going to say Richmond.   As for not answering, I also have not had the answers.  In a way it's good that I'm not the only one asking obscure stuff. - Bricks J. Winzer 07:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not Richmond. --Roisterer 10:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't think it would be this difficult, especially as we only have a certain number of possible answers. It's obviously a Melbourne based club.  --Roisterer 08:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Fitzroy Gnangarra 10:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not Fitzroy either. --Roisterer 11:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Carlton. πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  02:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ccccoooollllinggwood, there I said it Gnangarra 03:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No to both. And obviously it wouldn't be Essendon either.  --Roisterer 07:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * To recap the remaining choices, it was a Melbourne based team, giving us 11 possibilities. We have already excluded Richmond, Fitzroy, Carlton, Collingwood & Essendon, leaving us with 6 possibilities.  Pippu hasn't said Footscray so we can be sure it wasn't the Doggies, leaving us with 5 possible answers.  --Roisterer 10:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Geelong - Gnangarra 10:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I said "Melbourne based team, thereby excluding Geelong. The club in question's then leading ruckman has a surname rhyming with "Karoo".  --Roisterer 11:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)Geelong a Melbourne based team? I suppose as a Western Australian you have an excuse for poor Victorian geography, unlike the people who keep changing the Melbourne article. I'll guess North. JPD (talk) 11:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know but since the competition started because of a Geelong president, and I lived in Kyneton for 2 years, I know deep down melbourians have always wanted to consider Geelong one of theres 8) Go Cats. Gnangarra 11:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ummm guess number 4,132 Hawthorn Gnangarra 11:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you aren't disenchanted and make guess number 4133. --Roisterer 12:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hawthorn. πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  11:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, you have just made the same guess as Gnangarra above. Hawthorn was wrong in both cases.  There are only three other possible answers as far as I can see:  Melbourne, St Kilda & South Melbourne.  --Roisterer 13:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK melbourne it is? Gnangarra 13:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No but I can sense you are getting closer. --Roisterer 08:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess St Kilda, then - I can't imagine the Swans had that sort of money. JPD (talk) 10:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * St Kilda is right! I would have thought that my clue "Ruckman's name rhyming with 'Karoo'" would have immediately given away Jeff Sarau.  --Roisterer 12:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh, Jeff who??? - Bricks J. Winzer 05:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You obviously didn't attend that Sportsman's Night event at West Torrens Football Club back in the early 80s then. Jeff Sarau and Terry Jenner were the after dinner speakers.  --Roisterer 12:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Q 125
A bit more recently, even though the fuzzy state of origin concept does seem to now be a thing of the past, which two states were victorious in their both of their two most recent state of origin games? JPD (talk) 11:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Victoria & the Allies? --Roisterer 05:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK - so teams who won both their last Origin games, and assuming the Allies is not aligned to any state. Victoria is the obvious answer, def SA at the MCG in 1999, def Allies at the Gabba in 1998.  The obscure answer is: Queensland (and this DOESN'T count inter-league games either).  Queensland defeated Victoria in 1991, but in 1993 they defeated Tasmania, playing as a combined Qld/NT team.
 * Now - to try correct for the haziness there (a combined team rather than a state team), go back to Qld's previous contest before 1991: Qld def ACT in 1989 during that year's Carnival, but I don't know if this was just an inter-league team or a true Origin team. So I'm going with Victoria and Queensland as my answers.  Woohoo I finally answered one with some research. - Bricks J. Winzer 07:08, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Victoria is the obvious answer, yes. The Allies lost to Victoria before beating WA, as Bricks mentions. As for Queensland, I wasn't considering Qld/NT as the same team as Qld, and I didn't think the Carnival game was really and Origin team. I could be wrong there, but there is another state team that I was thinking of. JPD (talk) 15:40, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NSW is the only other possibility then, with WA, SA and Tas losing at least one of their last two Origin matches. The stats show NSW victories over Qld in 1992 and Vic in 1990. - Bricks J. Winzer 08:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I was after! JPD (talk) 16:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Q126
Question: Who is Jared Robinson? - Bricks J. Winzer 11:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Clue: His name was in the media in 2004. - Bricks J. Winzer 02:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Jared Robinson is an Australian actor, best known for his role as Craig Maxwell in the television soap opera Sons and Daughters. -- I presume this is not what your looking for. &mdash;Moondyne 02:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Got it. Richmond supporter who spat at the Tigers players as they left the ground at Telstra Dome after losing to Adelaide.  Was fined $500 plus costs. &mdash;Moondyne 02:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's him. I've got a bit of a connection to that night as well.  But it's over to you. - Bricks J. Winzer 16:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Q127
I'm really struggling for a question. Which AFL team has been in the most drawn games since 2000? Numbers of drawn games also please. &mdash;Moondyne 08:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There are two teams who have drawn three games since(inc) 2000 season, Geelong in 2000,2003,2006. and West Coast in 2000, twice 2003. Theres been none as of 1730 wst(1930 est) 14 Apr 2007 in 2007 season. Five other teams have had two draws in this period, if it doesnt included 2000 season then add Essendon, Carlton and Doggies as well.Gnangarra 09:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct. And I did mean including 2000 BTW.  I thought I'd read that WCE was 4 but on rechecking the stats you're right: 3 each for WCE and Geelong. &mdash;Moondyne 13:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Q128
On 7th May 1977 Hawthorn set the bar for the most behinds kicked in a game at 41 eclipsing Melbourne's 1940 effort of 34 points. Since Hawthorns effort 4 games have come within 10 of that bar, who where the teams what two factors are consistent in all 4 games. Gnangarra 13:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The consistent factors: Melbourne were the losing team in every encounter, the 30+ behinds being scored against them. Melbourne were also the home team and the games were at the MCG.  All four games were played on Saturday afternoons.  (And apparently, three of the four games occurred in the same season.) - Bricks J. Winzer 13:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * correct, three of those games occured in '81 the fourth was in 85. Also there was also another game in 81 that had 29 behinds only 12 behind the mark Gnangarra 16:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Q129
In 1994, The Age reported that one player finished the season with a Dream Team score of -1. A Carlton player had made just one appearance, in which he made one hit-out but gave away two free kicks. Name the player. - Bricks J. Winzer 14:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Andrew Cavedon? --Roisterer 06:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Got lost for a few days because I was being linked to the talk page for the Quiz somehow. Yeah it's Cavedon.  He ended up at Fitzroy after that. - Bricks J. Winzer 13:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Q130
Although I am not a St Kilda fan, Robert Harvey remains one of my favorite players. Why? --Roisterer 08:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I can give a clue for this without giving it away. An era will pass when he retires...  --Roisterer 05:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You have an autographed Scanlens footy card of him. - Bricks J. Winzer 18:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No but I like your thinking. People should think what particular record Harvey currently holds (and nothing to do with his Brownlows).  --Roisterer 05:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I keep coming back to his longevity. 20 seasons gives him as long as Michael Tuck in the game, but there could be someone in antiquity who played over more seasons.  Harvey's always worn number 35 from what I can recall so he's probably got a record for most games in that number.  And whenever he's played against Essendon, Kevin Sheedy's been the Bomber coach.  Can't think of much else. - Bricks J. Winzer 04:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's definitely related to his longevity but while to me Michael Tuck was merely some old bloke playing football, for personal reasons I'd like to see Harvey play on a few more seasons. --Roisterer 07:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * He's played in a grand final but not been on the winning team. So I'd say, most years played without a premiership medal.  Not sure how close he is to the top of most games... but I can think of Tuck, Bartlett, S.Madden, Bradley, Blakey all winning a flag. - Bricks J. Winzer 08:12, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No. When Harvey retires I'm going to feel very old.  --Roisterer 08:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe you share the same birthdate. &mdash;Moondyne 08:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Robert Harvey (footballer) is last player on current lists to have played before the expansion of VFL in 1990 Gnangarra 08:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Moondyne is very, very close. --Roisterer 07:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I've got it. Robert Harvey is the only active player older than Roisterer, who will become "ye olde Roisterer" when Banger retires. :) - Bricks J. Winzer 12:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Bricks has got it! I for one hope that Harvey kicks on for another few years yet and lets me continue my belief that I'm not too old to have a crack at the AFL.  --Roisterer 08:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Q131
Including history prior to VFL/AFL - how many of the AFL's teams have had blue in their colours? (Blue could be either royal or navy.) - Bricks J. Winzer 11:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does that include the historical associations of non victorian teams to state based team aka Freo's linke to East Freo, Port to Port etc. Gnangarra 14:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It includes only Port Adelaide and Sydney (South Melbourne). I'm also including Fitzroy distinct from Brisbane. - Bricks J. Winzer 15:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So; Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Fitzroy, Footscray, Geelong, Melbourne, North Melbourne, University, West Coast, Port Adelaide & Fremantle? No doubt I have missed at least one.  --Roisterer 12:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Missed a couple. And Fremantle isn't correct.  (Fremantle is not directly descended from South and East Freo) - Bricks J. Winzer 14:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't give clues - it'll give away the answer. - Bricks J. Winzer 12:55, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * but freo has played wearing blue when with the "historical" jumpers, all teams excluding sth melboure, sydney, and collingwood. Gnangarra 13:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Bricks is (rightly) counting Souths and Sydney as one club, but they shouldn't be excluded, as South's original colours were blue and white. JPD (talk) 13:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fremantle has always worn a heritage jumper of white with red chevrons, the jumper of the old Fremantle FC which pre-dated South Freo Bulldogs and East Freo Sharks. www.footyjumpers.com supports this. - Bricks J. Winzer 01:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Take Two: Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Fitzroy, Footscray, Geelong, Melbourne, North Melbourne, University, West Coast, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn & South Melbourne? --Roisterer 08:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Almost... if my sources are correct, one is wrong. - Bricks J. Winzer 11:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Checked out what JPD said, yeppers, South Melbourne did initially wear blue and white (as per Sydney Swans article). So Roisterer, your guess is very good but still incomplete... :) - Bricks J. Winzer 11:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I see from fullpointsfooty.net that St Kilda once wore blue knickerbockers. --Roisterer 13:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If true then add it to the list... still incomplete though ;) - Bricks J. Winzer 05:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Roisterer - I'm gonna hand this to you as you made the best attempt. No points awarded for this one as the complete answer didn't come up. - Bricks J. Winzer 08:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd meant to wander off and find a reference that gave all the colours that every club wore but real life kept getting in the way. If Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Fitzroy, Footscray, Geelong, Melbourne, North Melbourne, University, West Coast, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn, South Melbourne & St Kilda are all correct and Fremantle is wrong, we are left with Collingwood, Essendon & Richmond. Collingwood assures us that besides once wearing some odd outfit in a match against Swan Districts they have kept to balck and white.  Essendon always talks about that they haven't changed their jumper colours from red and black, which must leave Richmond. --Roisterer 06:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Q132
Who was the last player to be recruited from Woodville Football Club (rather than Woodville-West Torrens Football Club) to play an AFL/VFL match? --Roisterer 06:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Alan Jackovich. πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  07:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Another Pecker/Warrior lasted a few more seasons than that.  --Roisterer 07:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Richard Champion - Bricks J. Winzer 12:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, Richard Champion lasted about decade longer than Woodville itself. Also Bricks, we still don't know the answer for Q 131... --Roisterer 11:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well the logical conclusion was right. Richmond in its VFA days wore blue, black and yellow - one variation was a blue jersey with a black and yellow sash.  I think it would have been black edges on the yellow, a bit like the cricket club's jumper collars.  Now to think of a question... - Bricks J. Winzer 09:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Q133
Can't resist another curly one, but hey, isn't that what trivia's about. Mine is yet another TV question, but it comes from The Footy Show - the Thursday night edition which became a fixture in 1994. In that season, the panellists were only one from a club (unlike in later years, e.g. Dunstall and Crawford both from Hawthorn). They also came only from Victorian clubs (exception being Sydney's Dermott Brereton on at least one occasion). Who were those original player-panellists? - Bricks J. Winzer 13:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * lets see Jason Dunstall, Billy Brownless, Gary Lyon, James Hird, Doug Hawkins Gnangarra 13:46, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Original being opening night, or original being first season? Opening night I reckon were Timmy Watson (not Hird that early in his career), Jason Dunstall and Dougie. The-Pope 17:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Original being first season. I can tell you both that you've got four correct between you so far. - Bricks J. Winzer 10:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * add Silvagni, Michael Martyn, there was a Richmond player involved with the early shows but I thinks it was only with a band that played a couple of times. Gnangarra 12:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * so I take it the correct answer is one from each club. The 4 we have right I think are  Hawks: Dunstall; Bombers: Watson;Dogs: Hawkings; Cats: Brownless. I reckon the mound has Blues: SOS and Roos: Martyn, so for the others it's: Pies: McGuane; Demons: Stynes; Lions: Manson; Tigers: Benny Gale; Saints: Frawley; Swans:Brereton?The-Pope 22:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct answers: Dunstall, Watson, Hawkins, Brownless (and Brereton). - Bricks J. Winzer 00:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Correction from me: Silvagni is correct too... he came into the show midseason as it took a while for Carlton to allow him on, IIRC, but Nine got their man. - Bricks J. Winzer 13:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll have another go as no one else is. Crosica from the Pies, Boyd from the Lions, Allison from the Roos, Viney from the Demons, Loewe from the Saints and Wayne Campbell from the Tigers.The-Pope 03:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No dice - all wrong. - Bricks J. Winzer 09:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Surely my questions aren't that tough - they can't be much tougher than what comes on the Cricket project's quiz. Here are the answers. Hawthorn: Jason Dunstall. Footscray: Doug Hawkins. Essendon: Tim Watson. Collingwood: Craig Kelly. North Melbourne: Wayne Carey. Melbourne: Allen Jakovich. Fitzroy: Paul Roos. Carlton: Stephen Silvagni. Geelong: Bill Brownless. Those were the only players the panel was drawn from (exception being Dermott Brereton from Sydney for one show). In the first year (1994), no players from St Kilda or Richmond served as panellists. (Richmond players didn't even figure in the montage of players lip-synching to "More Than A Game" in the closing credits!) New question coming soon. - Bricks J. Winzer 15:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Q134
With regard to coaching, what do Collingwood, Carlton and Sydney have in common? - Bricks J. Winzer 15:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * All their coaches contracts expire at the end of the season Gnangarra 10:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not the answer I am after. - Bricks J. Winzer 08:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we can say this page is dead - nobody wants to answer questions any more. - Bricks J. Winzer 09:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I just don't have any idea what the answer is. A clue may lead me (and others) in the right direction though.  --Roisterer 23:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the problem... I can't quite work out a clue which wouldn't give it away totally. What I can tell you is that it's nothing to do with the current coaches. - Bricks J. Winzer 07:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well that doesn't really help. Can't be anything to do with longivity, or else Sheedy/Essendon would be there.  Can't be about not sacking/hiring coaches mid year, as Roos was hired mid year.  Jezza was the last playing coach, maybe Syd and Coll had the previous two. The-Pope 11:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Have they all had sensational mid-season sackings of coaches?
 * Longevity - no. Mid-year sackings and hirings - no.  Playing coach - no.  With that last one, it's quite the opposite in fact.  But I'll steer you away from "age of coach" line of thinking, because that's not it either. - Bricks J. Winzer 05:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They were the first clubs to have full time coaches Gnangarra 06:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Were they the first clubs to have coaches at all? Also, how do I get a signature?
 * Unless these things only happened in the early 80s, I doubt Sydney would be one of the "first" to do much. Swans or South Melbourne, maybe, but not Sydney.  You type ~ four times (or click on the sign your username: link underneath the save page/show preview/show changes buttons) to get the sig.  I'll guess first to have a full time assistant coach - probably occured in the mid 80s. The-Pope 11:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not getting closer. With regard to the 1980s, the answer I am after sees Collingwood and Sydney having done this during the 1980s.  Carlton did it much later. - Bricks J. Winzer 14:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They were the first to appoint assistant coaches? And, if this signature turns out okay, thanks for the help on it --TheGrantley 04:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Getting colder. Ignore assistant coaches. - Bricks J. Winzer 11:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They have each sacked a coach during his first season at the club Gnangarra 14:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Getting frostier. Clue: it has to do with one particular coach from each club's history.  There is a common thread.  And it's all since 1980.  I can confidently say that it has nowt to do with premierships. - Bricks J. Winzer 13:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooh, they all had coaches that hadn't played VFL/AFL football? Collingwood had John Cahill, Sydney had Bob Hammond and Carlton had Wayne Brittain?  --TheGrantley 23:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thought of that but the Eagles had John Todd. The-Pope 23:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm giving it to Grantley (welcome to the quiz!) because that's the path I was after. Yep, Collingwood had Cahill (who later coached Port), Carlton had Brittain (later assistant at Richmond)... and for Sydney I was thinking of Col Kinnear in the late 1980s. - Bricks J. Winzer 09:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I wandered onto Wikipedia to look at the South Adelaide page and before I knew it I found myself here.  --TheGrantley 07:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Q135
I hope this isn't too difficult/easy: Which player kicked 8 goals in the first two rounds of the 1986 VFL season before quitting his club? --TheGrantley 07:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Took me longer than it should have... I wrote most of the footy section of his article! Mark "Jacko" Jackson is the man... thanks to the actually really good AFL.com.au historical stats site. I'll have to update his page (and think of a question!). The-Pope 02:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the one. I think Jacko kicked 6 in round one and 2 in round 2 before getting dropped to the Geelong 2nds, whereupon he promptly quit.  --TheGrantley 04:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Q136
Going to be offline for the next few hours, so to keep it moving... of the players who's careers have been entirely since 1924, who has played the most games in their AFL/VFL career without ever getting a Brownlow Medal vote. And which current player is second on the list (unless he's got a vote this year!) The-Pope 03:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I remember reading that Scott Lee hadn't been getting votes for whole seasons. He now works for Coca Cola, although I'm sure the two aren't connected.--TheGrantley 04:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not Scott "Umpires Pet" Lee. He got 4 votes in his 86 game career.  The two players I'm after are well over 100 games.  The-Pope 11:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have a list of every VFL/AFL player and their career Brownlow vote total? If so, did you download it from somewhere or do you get "Anorak of the Year Award" for compiling them from scratch?  As for the answer, I'll go for a wild guess and say David Ackerley.  --Roisterer 03:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No need for any award, stats.rleague.com has the list. Cross reference it against the games played lists either there or at afl.com.au and bingo, you have your answer.  Ackerley must have an ump's best mate... 28 votes for him!  The leading guy I'm looking for is a back pocket player (no surprise there), and the currently player is a Docker (which is how I found the stat... I have been tracking the Freo brownlow votes myself.) The-Pope 12:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Time for another clue... the leading guy is from the Kangaroos. The-Pope 22:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I was about to say Roy Ramsey but a visit to the site above shows that Ross Henshaw played 167 games without ever convincing the umpires to vote for him, while strangely James Walker has currently played 141 games while never getting too worried about preparing a Brownlow acceptance speech. --Roisterer 05:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thems the both, well done... Walker has now played 150 games... had some good games this year, but still probably not in the top 3 on the ground. Vic Thorp and Mick Malthouse both only got the one vote from long careers.  The-Pope 07:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Q137
Driving along the Adelaide coast from Port Adelaide to Glenelg, about half way through the trip, on your left, is a site that has entered footballing folklore. What is it and why? --Roisterer 01:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Is that road where all the Magarey medal winners have a plaque or something.? Gnangarra 01:12, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I’d forgotten about the Magarey Medal plaques. While they are in the same general area as the place I am talking about, they are on a road heading away from the coast.  I’m thinking of a spot practically on the beach.  And it's more AFL related than SANFL.  --Roisterer 05:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Semaphore beach? frequented by PA players the morning after loosing Gnangarra 07:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You’re sort of on the right track, although Semaphore is much closer to Port Adelaide than Glenelg. I’m thinking of a specific incident.--Roisterer 07:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Incident? Well the only AFL related Adelaide incident I can think of is the Ramsgate Hotel Carpark fight, which happens to be located in Henley Beach, which is about halfway between West Lakes and Glenelg. The-Pope 11:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 100% correct there Popey. I may have been expansive to suggest it entered folklore but it has become infamous all the same.  --Roisterer 07:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * won't be online for a few days, so someone else can ask a question. The-Pope 01:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Q138
Okay then. I can't remember if I have asked this before; Which former AFL player's father built the 1956 Olympic Torch? --Roisterer 23:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The basic answer is that I have no idea but I will guess Bernard Toohey. --TheGrantley 04:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There was an article about this last year for the 50 year anniversary of the Melbourne Olympics. For those of you who, for whatever reason, don't feel like trawling through the Age's back issues, I can say that the player in question played during the 1980s and has been known to make the news now and then.  --Roisterer 07:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This isn't another Mark Jackson question, is it? --TheGrantley 22:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it's not. But you got the full-forward part of it right.  --Roisterer 02:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Something is telling me to guess Warwick Capper. - Bricks J. Winzer 13:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And that something is right! Is that something also telling you this week's lotto numbers?  --Roisterer 22:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Q139
No lotto numbers, because if I had that kind of insight, I'd also be able to read minds of others and wouldn't be out of work. Meanwhile I need to give you a quiz question. Well, back in the 1990s, North Melbourne claimed they were making inroads into the future of sponsorship when Hewlett Packard were signed up in late 1996. However they weren't the first to sign a technology company: there was another venture earlier in the 1990s which was somewhat ill-fated. Name the team and sponsor. - Bricks J. Winzer 10:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Was the sponsor IBM? πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  06:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And was the club Richmond? --TheGrantley 07:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sponsor was not IBM and Richmond was not the club - Richmond at the time was merrily rolling along with TAC. - Bricks J. Winzer 14:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK this is becoming annoying, I am dead certain I remember this happening late 1993 or 1994 but my research on the Web reveals it happened in late 1997!  Meaning that it paralleled HP's deal with North.  Nonetheless, the question is still valid, who were the team and sponsor?  And consider the date correction a clue. - Bricks J. Winzer 14:41, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Was it LG Electronics? And Freo?  --Roisterer 23:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC) (Dragging myself off my sickbed to answer this one).  --Roisterer 23:29, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No. LG is not a technology company, they're a consumer eletrical goods company... the G stands for GoldStar which was a product line created by Kambrook.  Fremantle are on the wrong track... it was a Victorian club. - Bricks J. Winzer 07:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if it's not Richmond or the Kangaroos and it is post-Fitzroy, then at least we have only 8 club options, so I'll guess Hawthorn and AOL, who were everywhere in the late 90s, as the organisation. --TheGrantley 03:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry... wrong answer. - Bricks J. Winzer 10:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Working on Grantley's thought processes regarding the club, I might suggest Melbourne" and see where that puts us. --Roisterer 06:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Melbourne is also not correct. If you want to narrow down potential answers, the club in question had their logos placed on the front and back of the guernsey, that's how significant the deal was. - Bricks J. Winzer 08:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't say that clue greatly helps me as I am never one to take much notice of clubs not called Port Adelaide but I'll guess Essendon and Ozemail. --Roisterer 22:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ill-fated sponsorships and St Kilda seem to go together, so I'll guess the Saints and throw in Optus for good measure. --TheGrantley 23:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not Essendon - during the 1990s they had TAC sponsorship. St Kilda in the same era had Tooheys. - Bricks J. Winzer 13:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It MUST be Collingwood then. It sounds just like the sort of thing Big Ed would be involved in.  --TheGrantley 01:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Grantley has just beaten me to the punch with Collingwood, but I can furnish the company involved as Viatel. I fond the following on the afana site:
 * "Sponsorship deals don't always work out. Before the 1998 season even started, Collingwood tore up a A$3 million sponsorship deal with Viatel Communications Group when they found out that they were among many conned by Viatel's charismatic chairman John Massey, having never received a penny of promised support. The club signed with Primus Communications for 1998 instead." --Roisterer 01:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Marvellous work there guys. (Weird thing was, I saw some footage on TV last night and I saw North's jumpers with Hypertec plastered on them - a year before the HP deal... my memory sucks!) Collingwood and Viatel were the partners, a deal which lasted just 2 months, but jumpers were put in stores with the orangey Viatel logo on them... Myer Doncaster even carried a couple *after* the deal broke up. I seem to recall it being earlier than 1998, but I defer to the various sources on the Web which confirm the date. And it was during Kevin Rose's time as president. As the question called for both the team and sponsor, the baton passes to Roisterer now. - Bricks J. Winzer 04:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Q140
Which former AFL player also opened the bowling for the Northern Territory side? (I hope there is only one answer to this question). --Roisterer 23:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nathan Buckley? πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  00:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Buckley a former player already? Darryl White? The-Pope 02:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pippu obviously has the inside word on Buckley. Both he and Darryl White are incorrect though.  Think more flash in the pan than longtime star of the game.  --Roisterer 03:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ha ha - may as well be! I can actually picture the bloke who I think we're after - but I'm buggered if I can remember his name - it will come to me eventually....  πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  04:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Adrian McAdam!!! πίππύ δ'Ω∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  04:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes! Adrian McAdam, he of the 30 goals (or thereabouts) from his first three games, later opened the bowling for the Northern Territory. Your turn.  --Roisterer 05:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)