Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Abraham Lincoln


 * The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The resulting WikiProject was not created

Description
Abraham Lincoln, the 16th President of the United States (1861-1865), has been the subject of an incredible amount of scholarly research to this day. There are many articles about his life. I just created one based on a new book on Lincoln that won several major prizes in 2011, including one named after him. Lincoln is also the subject of numerous fictional works, such as a couple of upcoming movies: Lincoln and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. As such, there are a ton of articles relating to Lincoln. There is even a Wiki Book in existence. There is also precedent for giving a POTUS his own WikiProject. Barack Obama, who admits he styles himself after Lincoln, has his own WikiProject. According to the stats, WP:OBAMA consists of 359 pages, including files, project pages, portals, categories, etc. Based on a recursive search of that category with AWB, there are 721 769 Lincoln articles within Category:Abraham Lincoln (note: the original figure missed the 31 in Category:Lincoln family and 17 I just categorized in Category:Lincoln Administration personnel) and it's subcategories. I imagine there is plenty of room to grow, as there are more than 14 notable non-fiction books on Lincoln, but only 14 in Category:Books about Abraham Lincoln at this time. I have not led a project before, but I am committed to this subject and familiar with WikiProject functions through my membership with other projects. I envision devloping a WikiProject based in many ways on WP:OBAMA, including the development of Portal:Abraham Lincoln. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * List of important pages and categories for this proposed group
 * abraham lincoln (number of pages in the category: 119)
 * assassination of abraham lincoln (number of pages in the category: 41)
 * lincoln family (number of pages in the category: 31)
 * abraham lincoln (number of pages in the category: 119)
 * assassination of abraham lincoln (number of pages in the category: 41)
 * lincoln family (number of pages in the category: 31)


 * List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles
 * Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.


 * , especially the US Presidents taskforce


 * Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
 * Abraham Lincoln is too specific a subject to be handled by WP US or WP Biography alone, although there is clear overlap with them and reason to work with them. Many pages relating to Lincoln include only the above two projects. WP:Politics can also be consulted, but not all of his life falls under the rubric of politics.

Support
Please specify whether or not you would join the project.
 * 1) – Muboshgu (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  23:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 3)  DCI  talk 23:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 4) --Kumioko (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 5) --Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC) (Lots of articles.)
 * 6) LFevas (talk) 10:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC) I'd join, but I'll need some guidance since I haven't done this before...

Discussion
I believe that this is a good idea, given the amount of material devoted to describing our 16th president. WikiProject Abraham Lincoln could work on improving other Lincoln-related articles, as well, such as the United States presidential election, 1860 article.  DCI  talk 23:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think its a solid idea and I think there's plenty of content. I only wonder if theres enough interest but I'll help out with what I can. --Kumioko (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * What about "WikiProject:American Presidents"? I believe more would  join a bigger focused group and you guys thus could standardize all the pages. Merger the Presidents projects make each President a taskforces - That said I see no problem with enough articles to keep a group called Abraham Lincoln busy.Moxy (talk) 01:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There is already a US Presidents wikiproject -- WikiProject U.S. Presidents, so a WP American Presidents is not needed. 70.24.245.198 (talk) 04:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats the point make all the presidents task forces of the main project. But like I said before I do support the idea.Moxy (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, first of all I believe that Lincoln is a specialized subject of enough importance to merit a separation from relatively nondescript presidents who are not studied the way Lincoln is. Also, I would think that articles such as Early life and career of Abraham Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln in the Black Hawk War, Samuel Lincoln, Joshua Fry Speed and others that are important to Lincoln aren't under the purview of the US Presidents task force. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not much of a project joiner but I wish you well. Do you want me to list my support, even though I won't probably join? Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. My understanding is that saying "Support" just means you support the project being created, not that you would commit to joining it. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * ''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or at the WikiProject Council). No further edits should be made to this page.