Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/American Football Minor Leagues


 * The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The proposed WikiProject was not created. PCN02WPS ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 22:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Description
A WikiProject that improves American Football Minor Leagues. This Project will improve Minor League Articles.(e.g. American Association Teams) It will also improve other football league articles and teams. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

List of important pages and categories for this proposed group
 * american football competitions
 * category
 * defunct american football leagues in the united states
 * semi-professional american football
 * gridiron football
 * american football competitions
 * category
 * defunct american football leagues in the united states
 * semi-professional american football
 * gridiron football
 * gridiron football


 * List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles
 * Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.




 * Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
 * I think the Minor Leagues should have a project too. The American Football League, Arena Football League, Canadian Football League, and College football all have Projects. Even Australian Rules football has a project.

Support
Also, specify whether or not you would join the project.
 * 1) BeanieFan11 - I definitely would join. (talk) 22:05, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) PCN02WPS - I'm in. (talk) 01:29, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Murphanian777 - Too busy to help at the moment, but I fully support. Minor football teams are fascinating. (talk)
 * 4) GPL93 - I would join as well. Over the summer I created some articles of former players that were well known minor league players, but also passed WP:NGRIDIRON (ex: Tom Bland). Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Opposed

 * 1) I applaud the effort to improve the coverage of minor American football leagues, but I don't see any reason why this can't be managed within the existing WikiProject American football. WikiProject American football has just over 2,000 articles tagged under its domain (see Category:American football articles by quality). This consists mostly of articles about such minor leagues and a handful of articles about general American football topics. Compare that to over 60,000 articles tagged for WikiProject College football (see Category:College football articles by quality) and around 30,000 for WikiProject National Football League (see: Category:National Football League articles by quality). I think it would be more helpful to keep interest and attention consolidated rather than to further disperse it into another related WikiProject. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:34, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 2) I agree with Jweiss11. WP:WikiProject American football already covers this topic, and the more prominent leagues (i.e. NFL and NCAA football) have their own dedicated projects already. No reason people can't join WP:AMF and do all the proposed editing under their auspices. – PeeJay 11:55, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * 3) Oppose, per Jweiss11 and the discussion below. There is no reason that this couldn't be done under the bandwith of the American football project.–UCO2009bluejay (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * this diff contributed to my perspective.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion
I'm not sure why Aussie rules football is in the discussion here. It's a completely different code. --SuperJew (talk) 12:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Saying "even Aussie rules has its own project" is like saying "even golf has its own project"! – PeeJay 11:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * SuperJew and PeeJay, I don't see the problem with saying "Even Australian Rules Football has a project". This is only a project proposal. Its not like I'm against it. If its really a problem I could remove it. – BeanieFan11  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 17:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Question Is this necessary to have a separate project or would a task force be more suitable? Also what about the UFL, or arguably more major-ish leagues such as the XFL's I and II, the AFLs I-III, the AAFC? I am not opposed per say, just wanted clarification.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, the discussion traffic at WikiProject American football which as stated above already covers this project is paltry, especially compared to WP:NFL or WP:CFB-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


 * This can be closed as unsuccessful (I had almost completely forgotten about this until I just looked at the project proposals list). BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:19, 3 February 2023 (UTC)