Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Grand Canyon


 * The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The proposed WikiProject was not created. More than half a year old and no other editors have stated they would join.  PJvanMill ) talk ( 19:45, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Description
WikiProject on all things related to the Grand Canyon, as the scope seems to outpace a taskforce (that would not have a fitting parent WP anyway) Kingsif (talk) 07:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

List of important pages and categories for this proposed group
 * grand canyon (number of pages in the category: 59)
 * grand canyon national park (number of pages in the category: 10)
 * grand canyon history (number of pages in the category: 15)
 * national register of historic places in grand canyon national park (number of pages in the category: 24)
 * natural history of the grand canyon (number of pages in the category: 40)
 * early grand canyon river runners 13
 * works about the grand canyon 11
 * grand canyon, north rim 35
 * hiking trails in grand canyon national park 33
 * buildings and structures in grand canyon national park 26
 * grand canyon (number of pages in the category: 59)
 * grand canyon national park (number of pages in the category: 10)
 * grand canyon history (number of pages in the category: 15)
 * national register of historic places in grand canyon national park (number of pages in the category: 24)
 * natural history of the grand canyon (number of pages in the category: 40)
 * early grand canyon river runners 13
 * works about the grand canyon 11
 * grand canyon, north rim 35
 * hiking trails in grand canyon national park 33
 * buildings and structures in grand canyon national park 26
 * grand canyon history (number of pages in the category: 15)
 * national register of historic places in grand canyon national park (number of pages in the category: 24)
 * natural history of the grand canyon (number of pages in the category: 40)
 * early grand canyon river runners 13
 * works about the grand canyon 11
 * grand canyon, north rim 35
 * hiking trails in grand canyon national park 33
 * buildings and structures in grand canyon national park 26


 * List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles
 * Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.




 * Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
 * The scope of the Grand Canyon topic is much larger and broader than any one of these groups, several of which could focus only on certain specifics and for which the Grand Canyon and related articles are not a major concern in the existing groups' focus. There are extensive articles that primarily focus on the Grand Canyon and directly related topics, as well as the main article being a level 3 vital article, denoting greater significance. Several of the more relevant existing groups are also barely active and could not devote time to improving the important articles. I also think that the widespread interest of the Grand Canyon as a wonder of the world will attract more editors to the topic directly rather than through other projects. Kingsif (talk) 08:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Support
Also, specify whether or not you would join the project.
 * 1) Kingsif (talk) 07:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion
I think you should propose a WikiProject dedicated to canyons overall rather than just one specific canyon seeing how there are a significant amount of articles about the subject. Jerm (talk) 16:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I do disagree: most canyons can be covered by geology, while the Grand Canyon has prominent heritage and tourism elements. WikiProjects can also die quite quickly but my guess is that being interested in a unique feature like the Grand Canyon would prevent losing editors. It has hundreds of articles of coverage, so it's not going to be lacking. Kingsif (talk) 13:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what you said, all canyons heritage and tourism elements. This WikiProject would actually die really quickly. It would edit a bunch of Grand Canyon articles, then have nothing left to do. It might be a better idea to make a WikiProjects for all canyons, and then make a taskforce specifally for the grand canyon. At least for now, I definetly oppose this WikiProject, and believe it is a waste of editors time and giving undue weight. Starship SN20 (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You clearly don’t understand WikiProjects (nobody is forced to work on them, not that any improvements could be a waste of time, and they are made based on a certain area with large article scope needing attention, no “undue weight”!) or, I think, editing in general (there is no “end” to editing articles on the Grand Canyon, nor any subject, as new information is discovered and improvements can be made to prise etc. anyway, so there isn’t a point left with nothing to do!), so I give your opposition negative weight, thanks. Kingsif (talk) 20:50, 6 September 2021 (UTC)