Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Pennsylvania Streams


 * The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The proposed WikiProject was not created

Description
This Wikiproject would deal with articles on rivers, creeks, streams, runs that are fully or partly in the state of Pennsylvania. --Jakob (talk) 00:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Show the subject is big enough:
 * Category:Rivers of Pennsylvania has 413 pages + subcategories. I envision that there will someday be 1000 articles in this WikiProject.

Show that you are aware of related projects:
 * WikiProject Rivers, parent project

List of important pages and categories for this proposed group Main list (would be ranked top-importance):

Major rivers (would be ranked high-importance):


 * rivers of pennsylvania (number of pages in the category: 413+)


 * List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles
 * Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.




 * Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
 * I feel that WikiProject Rivers cannot efficiently manage the pages in its scope, as there are tens of thousands of notable rivers in the world. This WikiProject is on the small side, but at least there should be no administrative overload, and also I am actively and fairly rapidly creating more articles that would fit into the scope of this project. I also believe that there is precedent for this kind of WikiProject, see the Pennsylvania Roads WikiProject. As for the question of why Pennsylvania streams, it is really just because I happen to be active in this area and I would encourage others to set up similar WikiProjects for other states. Thank you for considering, --Jakob (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Support
Also, specify whether or not you would join the project.
 * 1) --Jakob (talk) 00:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) - wouldn't join - no real issue whether a taskforce or wikiproject (unless assessment tables can't be done for a taskforce, in which case I'd strongly advocate for a wikiproject. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:23, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Discussion
While this is a good idea in theory, I know from past experience that there are very few editors working on these streams. I used to but am not able to spend much time here anymore, is working on them now and doing a good job, there are a few others who have done some systematic work on PA streams (,  and  come to mind). However, a Wikiproject generally needs several dedicated members to be effective and successful, so I am not sure this would be worth pursuing. Sorry, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 05:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I suppose it is no more esoteric than the Banksia WikiProject really. The key I think is whether you can have an automated comprehensive assessment table such as the one at the top of WikiProject Banksia/Article notes for a taskforce or only for a discrete wikiproject. If one can do this for a taskforce then this discussion is moot and I think I'd say just tweak for a taskforce. If it is easier to do bot-run things only for a wikiproject then go for that. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I would not oppose this project, but I'm not sure why I got a notice about it, other than copyediting articles. Bearian (talk) 16:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Why not cover all bodies of water? Lakes, ponds, marshes, canals as well. -- 70.24.250.235 (talk) 09:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or at the WikiProject Council). No further edits should be made to this page.