Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Speeches and persuasion


 * The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The proposed WikiProject was not created; the proposal was abandoned

UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:51, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Description
The scope of this project would include elocution, famous speeches, persuasion, rhetoric, discourse, debate, propaganda, logic, advertising, marketing, social influence, public speaking, and more. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 01:21, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

List of important pages and categories for this proposed group
In no particular order. Some items are more important than others.
 * media manipulation (number of pages in the category: 10C 7P )
 * speeches (number of pages in the category: 7C 96P )
 * rhetoric (number of pages in the category: 17C 262P )
 * debating (number of pages in the category: 10C 45P )
 * public speaking (number of pages in the category: 14C 100P )
 * speeches by writer (number of pages in the category: 26C 2P )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * media manipulation (number of pages in the category: 10C 7P )
 * speeches (number of pages in the category: 7C 96P )
 * rhetoric (number of pages in the category: 17C 262P )
 * debating (number of pages in the category: 10C 45P )
 * public speaking (number of pages in the category: 14C 100P )
 * speeches by writer (number of pages in the category: 26C 2P )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * media manipulation (number of pages in the category: 10C 7P )
 * speeches (number of pages in the category: 7C 96P )
 * rhetoric (number of pages in the category: 17C 262P )
 * debating (number of pages in the category: 10C 45P )
 * public speaking (number of pages in the category: 14C 100P )
 * speeches by writer (number of pages in the category: 26C 2P )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * media manipulation (number of pages in the category: 10C 7P )
 * speeches (number of pages in the category: 7C 96P )
 * rhetoric (number of pages in the category: 17C 262P )
 * debating (number of pages in the category: 10C 45P )
 * public speaking (number of pages in the category: 14C 100P )
 * speeches by writer (number of pages in the category: 26C 2P )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )
 * category name (number of pages in the category: )

List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles

 * Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.



Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
While all of those projects do each touch a few aspects of the subject, none encompass the entire subject. Wikipedia would benefit from a project interested especially in this broad subject, instead of just hoping that a bunch of projects, all with bigger priorities, attempt to improve this topic.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 18:10, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Support
Also, specify whether or not you would join the project.
 * 1) &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; (nominator) Yes, I would join this WikiProject, and since I would be its creator it would be my priority alongside POLITICS/USA which I effectively revived. 01:35, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) &#8213; Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖  22:37, 22 December 2017 (UTC) I would be interested in this WikiProject and believe it should exist.
 * 3) Potential support, in concept. The proposed name doesn't really work. But we do have a bit of a project coverage gap when it comes to a general sector of the arts and applied communication (oratory, speechwriting, public relations, debate, etc.).  Is there a way to encapsulate this in a word or two?  "Speeches and persuasion" isn't even a parallel construction and is thus awkward.  "Persuasion" is also vague, and could include advertising, pick-up artists, propaganda, cult-of-personality, indoctrination, etc., etc., and I'm skeptical the scope is intended to be that broad.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:39, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion

 * The description seems a bit vague. Maybe the title should be Wikiproject propaganda, disinformation or deception. In any case I think speech should be taken out, because that is more the domain of rhetoric, speechmaking, etc, and I think those are already covered by other wikiprojects. This wiki project would, of necessity, have a lot of flamebait and attract people fighting over whatcounts as disinformation or not.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 02:13, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or at the WikiProject Council). No further edits should be made to this page.