Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Peer review/The Ashes

The Ashes
A former featured article that one reviewer (see talk page) called "the worst FA I've ever seen". With justification because this article was quite abysmal in terms of its matches and series section. I've tried to take out out the POV and the imbalance by mentioning (nearly) all the series and putting everything into a properly objective perspective as series that belonged within a particular era of the contest's history.

I don't pretend that the article now is anywhere near perfect and it may still be a long way short of genuine FA standard. Although I've tried to make the best of the match and series section I would prefer to remove it completely because I believe that this article should be about the trophy and the legend: the series belong in the various tour and series articles that have been created.

I've given it a start-class rating as I don't think the citations are complete, mainly because someone has used Chris Harte ad nauseum when really they should have used Wisden.

It would be nice to get such an important cricket topic up to genuine A and even FA standard, so please review it and say where it can still be improved. BlackJack | talk page 22:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * "Although I've tried to make the best of the match and series section I would prefer to remove it completely because I believe that this article should be about the trophy and the legend: the series belong in the various tour and series articles that have been created." I think that something about the invididual series should remain, to give an overview of how the balance of power has shifted to and fro over time between England and Australia. You don't really get that in an article dealing with an inidividual series. JH (talk page) 08:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at it again a week on I think the match/series section does have a place as long as it is balanced, which was the main complaint when the article was "demoted"; and as long as it does not take over the article which is essentially about the trophy and the legend. As such, I think the series section provides the background drama as it were, while the details about Jardine and the rest of the cast belong in their specific articles.  BlackJack | talk page 19:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)