Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Germany task force

Welcome to the German football task force.

Scope
The German football task force covers:


 * All German clubs, leagues and competitions and associated articles
 * German football organisations
 * Players and managers that are German, or have played for a German club.
 * Stadiums in Germany
 * Matches played in Germany
 * Articles associated with the German National teams (Germany, East Germany, Saarland).
 * The history of football in Germany

Not to be included
 * International competitions or matches

Project tag
Any German football related article should be tagged on it discussion page as follows:

The class and importance parameters may be modified as required in accordance with the scales linked within the template.

Assessment
See WikiProject Football/Assessment for further information.

Participants
Please add yourself to the list by adding an asterisk and 4 tildes (* ~) below and then saving your edit. Your user name and date stamp will appear after the edit saved.

Willkommen!


 * Wiggy! 22:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * -Lemmy- (talk) 17:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC) Creating articles for and about Eintracht Frankfurt all the time but if I see mistakes and/or not updated articles I correct it as well. As I'm German I can help out with translations and local news and opinions as well. Just drop me a message and I'll be there.
 * King of the North  East  17:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC) (I'm well busy with Argentine football at the moment, but will keep new pages on my watchlist and hopefully create articles for South American footballers in Germany when I get some time.)
 * Calistemon (talk) 14:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * SGD-LFC  (talk)  18:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OdinFK (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC) After more or less completing the historical DFB-Pokal pages currently just doing some minor updates to FC Bayern related stuff.
 * Hubschrauber729 (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Madcynic (talk) 23:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Mostly care about competitions 1. FC Magdeburg have been in or are in. Other Magdeburg and East German football is interesting as well. I also take care of templates occasionally.
 * Soccer-holic (talk) 13:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Currently busy with improving the look of historic Bundesliga season articles (Status, Dec 31: 1963–71 completed, 1971–73 missing season overview, 1973–75 missing overview and results). Besides that, I regularly update the (European) 2008–09 season articles.
 * Q2thaZ (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC) – I'll help out where I can!
 * Dribblingscribe (talk) 20:24, 23 March 2009 (UTC) Keen to get involved! write me with anything you want help with and I'll see what I can do . . . . . .in a bit!
 * Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:53, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 *  Fallschirmjäger 00:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Bimberbube (talk) 07:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * J Mo 101 (talk) 19:16, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Max12Max12Max (talk) 12:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Pretending Boy (talk) 02:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Lonjing(talk)02:22, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Vlad997 (talk) 11:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Rupert1904 (talk) 01:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC) Since there is so much great information on Bayern, I try to edit pages related to other clubs, like Leverkusen, Dortmund and Schalke.
 * Secret Agent Julio (talk) 03:25, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * EriFr (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2016 (UTC) Currently working on improving the article on RB Leipzig. I got a huge to-do list in my Sandbox and it keeps growing...
 * Arbero (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * DerDFB (talk) 17:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * KingSkyLord (talk) 13:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * A Blind Puppy (talk) 7:42, 8 July 2019 (UTC) Covering Union Berlin for 2019-20 and potential future seasons in Bundesliga.
 * 🇺🇸🇮🇳 User: SHISHIR DUA (talk) 11:35, 3 August 2019 (UTC) Covering Bayern Munich for 2019-20 and potential future seasons in Bundesliga.
 * Allenthalben (talk) 21:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * SFletcher06 (talk) 23:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC) I like German football generally, and especially East German football. I support Union Berlin, but have a soft spot for Erzgebirge Aue amongst others.
 * Phanto1999 (talk) 16:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * INAC Kramerica (talk) 05:16, 25 October 2021 (UTC) Big fan of German football and German culture. Favorite club is Borussia Mönchengladbach. Also learning German language. Hope to be able to contribute to Bundesliga and other German football-related articles in due time.
 * Perfect4th (talk) 23:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Jay eyem (talk) 17:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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To do
No, this isn't to make life a chore – if you have some time on your hands and are looking for some way to contribute to the task force, check below – and have fun.


 * Any football related article should be tagged . If it is also in the scope of this task force add
 * Review importance and quality of existing articles
 * Identify articles for creation
 * Identify articles for improvement
 * Recruit interested Wikipedians
 * Find non-copyrighted pictures for articles covered by the task force
 * Make sure that all new articles have the appropriate categories and a suitable infobox
 * Make sure that current squads are kept up to date
 * Make sure that club managers and chairmen are kept up to date
 * Ensure that the correct teams are included in the league articles, templates and list of football clubs in Germany article for the start of each season.
 * Add references to unreferenced articles. BLPs are a priority. You can use the list of unreferenced German footballer BLPs

Job list

 * Add some dimension to the English language articles by visiting corresponding German language articles and plucking the best material from them.

List of Articles requiring improvement

 * Most of the articles could stand having sources added to them.
 * Club stubs are listed at Category:German football club stubs.
 * Bundesliga-Clubs not B-Class yet:
 * VfL Bochum
 * Werder Bremen
 * Borussia Dortmund
 * SC Freiburg
 * Hamburger SV
 * Hannover 96
 * TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
 * 1. FC Köln
 * 1. FSV Mainz 05
 * VfB Stuttgart
 * VfL Wolfsburg

Resources for editors
Copy and paste and then fill in the blanks.
 * A basic template for starting German club articles: User:Wiggy!/club_template
 * Fair use and source tags for team logos – don't get busted by the image cops!: User:Wiggy!/logo_tag

List of new Articles
When you have created or spotted a new article please log it here:
 * WikiProject Football/Germany task force/New articles

Articles

 * For club article requests see: WikiProject Football/Germany task force/Requested club articles
 * You can also post a request – or respond to another users request – for an article on a German football club here at the general sports article request page.
 * With the addition of the page on 1. FC Kleve we had in place an article for each German club playing fourth division football or better in 2007–08!


 * The 2008–09 season is soon upon us and the introduction of the new 3. Liga has expanded the scope of the task force. What was once the fourth tier Oberliga is now a fifth tier circuit. Basic coverage of teams in the first four tiers is in good shape. However, new articles are required for clubs appearing for the first time in the greatly expanded Oberliga (V) circuit.


 * Only a dozen new articles are required to complete basic coverage of all Oberligas other than the Oberliga Nord. That league has been broken up into five separate competitions and there is a need to cover off another 64 clubs playing in the north. This includes a mixture of traditional sides, former DDR clubs, and newcomers. You can see what needs to be done for the north at Oberliga.

Team logos

 * Team logos can be found at Category:German football logos.
 * Articles missing logos have been tagged with the generic image nologo.png. [[Image:nologo.png|25px]] You can find a list of missing logos at the bottom of the image description page.

Information resources
Share what you know and where you have been on the net with other task force members.


 * http://www.dfb.de Deutsche Fußball Bund: German Football Association
 * http://www.bundesliga.de Bundesliga: first and second division competition
 * http://www.fussballdaten.de Results and statistics: top four divisions, German Cup, international competition

Enthusiasts
There's lots of German football out there on the web. These sites are maintained by fans of the German game and offer up history, statistics, commentaries, logos, and more. If you visit, please be sure to leave behind a note of support or appreciation.
 * http://www.abseits-soccer.com/ The Abseits Guide to German Soccer: English language, an introduction to the German game, team profiles, historical tables, editorials, and commentary.
 * http://www.f-archiv.de/ Das deutsche Fußball Archiv: historical domestic results
 * http://www.fussball-historie.de/ Hirschi's Fussballseiten: early German football
 * http://www.wappencommunity.de Wappencommunity: logo enthusiasts, discussion forums, links
 * http://www.wappensalon.de WappenSalon: logo rendering and design
 * http://www.clublinks.info/kurmark.htm The Kurmark Sportwappen cigarette card album: German football logos ca: 1931
 * http://www.eufo.de Club profiles and current rosters – Europe
 * http://eufo.de/football/ger/2007/index.htm Club profiles and current rosters – Germany
 * http://www.rsssf.com/tablesd/duit08.html The RSSSF Archive: historical results and statistics – Germany
 * http://www.rsssf.com/country.html#full The RSSSF Archive: historical results and statistics – countrywise list, Germany, East, Germany, West Germany, links
 * http://www.rsssf.com/players/duit-players-overview.html The RSSSF Archive: Germany – Player Data

German Wikipedia
Lots of German football at the German Wikipedia, of course. Here are links to help point the way.
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Liste_(Fußball) Category:Football
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Fußball_in_Deutschland Category:Football in Germany
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Ehemaliger_deutscher_Fußballverband Category:Former German football leagues
 * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Mghamburg/Vereinslexikon One German user has set himself the ambitious goal of creating pages for each of the teams listed in Hardy Grüne's Vereinslexikon. Awesome team list based on the book, quick links to German language team pages at de:Wikipedia.
 * "Oh no!", I thought, "They've killed it!". Not so. Its been moved off the user page and turned into a list here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Positivlisten/Fußballvereine_in_Deutschland. Whew!

Literature

 * Grüne, Hardy (2001). Vereinslexikon. Kassel: AGON Sportverlag ISBN 3-89784-147-9 One of the must-have reference books for German football fans. Lists all German clubs that have appeared in fourth division competition and above up to 2001.
 * Recent word is that a updated version of the Vereinslexikon is in the works and that the good burghers at www.wappensalon.de will be paricipating by providing some of the logo work. Watch for it.


 * The updated version of the penultimate German football reference has been available for some months now. It goes under the name of Das große Buch der deutschen Fußballvereine (Grüne, Hardy and Karn, Christian (2009). Das große Buch der deutschen Fusballverein Kassel: Agon-Sportverlag. ISBN 978-3-89784-362-2) and includes information on over 2,000 clubs that have played third division football or better.


 * The authors have taken a new tack and in addition to the basic statistical stuff provided for each club, there's now a short written history included. It's given the whole thing more depth and made it even more fun and informative than it was before. Now doubly worth laying your hands on.


 * Grüne, Hardy (1996). Vom Kronprinzen bis zur Bundesliga. Kassel: AGON Sportverlag ISBN 3-928562-85-1 Another of Grüne's books, this one provides a detailed history (tables, tables, tables) of German championship competition from the earliest days of the game in Germany until the formation of the Bundesliga in 1963. The Bundesliga is a separate book.
 * Grüne, Hardy (2003) 100 Jahre Deutsche Meisterschaft. Die Geschicte des Fußballs in Deutschland. ISBN 3-89533-410-3 Yup. Grüne again. He's got a series of these. This is another look at the German championship, celebrating its centenary so it includes the Bundesliga. More detailed commentary this time out, without the detailed tables and summaries of VKbzB.
 * Hesse-Lichtenberger, Ulrich (2003). Tor! The Story of German Football. WSC Books ISBN 0-9540134-5-X A well-written English language introduction to the German game from it beginnings in the late 19th century through to the 2002 World Cup. Provides a great overview of the complex history of German football.
 * Hamburger Abendblatt. This newspaper has their entire archives online here, good for seeking out specific dates for manager changes and referencing them.