Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Recruitment Centre/Recruiter Central/Archives/1ST7

 Status:  Closed

 Date Started:  August 10, 2013

 Date Ended:  September 1, 2013

 Recruiter:  User:Wizardman

First things first, I would like you to review Good article criteria and What the Good article criteria are not, as well as Good article nominations/Instructions. When you've read through all three, let me know and I'll give a quick quiz to make sure you understand the letter and spirit of what it has to say. Wizardman 17:51, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ --1ST7 (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Here's the quiz. The first six questions will be clear, taken from the above links. The final four will be more on the spirit of the process to make sure you understand it. If those aren't right it's no big deal as long as the clear ones are. For the true or false, if false explain why.
 * 1) Articles do not need inline citations to pass GA if they list the references at the bottom of the page, true or false? True, if the article contains none of the specific cases for which an inline citation is necessary (such as direct quotes, statistics, and controversial material).
 * 2) There is only one style of inline citation allowed, anything else must be changed, true or false? False. There is more than one style of inline citation that can be used, though an article should use one style consistently.
 * 3) A biographical article focusing solely on one critical event would fail the GA criteria, true or false? True.
 * 4) Can a GA have a non-free image? Yes.
 * 5) If one person has majorly expanded the article just before nomination, does it fail the stability criteria? No.
 * 6) When can a list be a good article? (there's a more complicated answer, but for now just give the one in your readings) It can't, but it can be a featured list.
 * 7) Can an article be too large for GA? No.
 * 8) How long should a GA review take? There's no set time. It can be passed or failed immediately, or it can be placed on hold. When the article is put on hold, the nominator is usually given seven days to fix any issues, but the amount of time can be shortened or lengthened.
 * 9) Do all sources and citations have to be in English? No.
 * 10) Does an article need to be perfect to be a GA? No. --1ST7 (talk) 02:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Q1 is actually incorrect. Articles do need to have inline citations. They don't have to be at the end of every sentence of course, though a good guideline is one per paragraph. You are right about when inline cites should be used, however. Q7 is partially right in terms of raw size. An article can be too overdetailed and fail the broad criterion, though there isn't an absolute number limit. Still, when I see an article with 100kb of prose (again, not the raw size, but the text itself), I'm going to ask them to trim it. The rest of the answers are fine, I'll post the next steps later today. Wizardman 16:25, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I was a little confused about Q1 after reading this part of What the Good article criteria are not: "If an article contains none of these five types of statements, then Citing sources may be used. If the article contains any of these five types of statements, then some sort of inline citation system must be used for those specific statements. (All other article text may still be supported by general references.)" So thanks for clearing that up. --1ST7 (talk) 16:54, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

What I'm going to do next is do a review of my own for you to look over and follow along with. In the meantime, here's a couple of my better ones to look over, with a few notes:
 * Talk:Kevin Youkilis/GA3 This one has a mix both of errors to fix and areas that could be expanded. It's a bit primitive since it's an earlier review of mine but it gives you the idea.
 * Talk:Earle C. Clements/GA1 This article was in good shape to begin with, so there are not that many comments. Usually if you find less then that, either the article was particularly well-maintained or it should be re-read since something was missed.
 * Talk:You Are the One (telenovela)/GA1 Here's one that ended up failing. On the surface it doesn't look like much, but as I noted that's from a skim. Generally if I start finding far too many simple mistakes I just request a copyedit top to bottom. The article should be near GA status when nominated, so if it's sloppy I'm not going to point out every little thing.
 * Talk:Golding Bird/GA1 I took over this one 75% of the way through, but both mine and Philcha's review of this are worth reading (the subsections for each part like he had would likely be beneficial for you.)
 * Talk:Hertford College, Oxford/GA1 This is a quick-fail. Generally they are discouraged unless the article is clearly far off GA status. For the purposes of the training we won't do any quick-fails. Wizardman  15:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll read over them. --1ST7 (talk) 15:55, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ --1ST7 (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Is the Brad Hennessey GA review the one I should follow along with? --1ST7 (talk) 16:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup. Once I get that written up you can look over it. Sorry it's been slow on my end. Wizardman  15:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me, and don't worry about it. --1ST7 (talk) 01:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Review's done, so we can finally move on to step two. For this, I want you to pick out an article to review, and I'll follow along/do a second review afterwards to make sure everything's covered. It's preferable to pick someone who is willing to have a new reviewer, and that list is here. Wizardman 22:13, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's the review: Talk:Malala Yousafzai/GA4. --1ST7 (talk) 01:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've passed the article. --1ST7 (talk) 02:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it alright if I start another review? --1ST7 (talk) 00:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The first review looks good now that I've reviewed it, so go ahead and do another one. Wizardman  04:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's the second review: Talk:A Night in Sickbay/GA1. --1ST7 (talk) 01:53, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It passed. --1ST7 (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Review looks good. Since you don't seem to have had any issues with the reviews you have done, I think you're good to go, and as a result I will be closing this. If you have any future questions, don't hesitate to ask over at my talk page. Wizardman  17:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)