Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Assessment/A-Class Review/California State Route 54

California State Route 54

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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 * Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
 * Nominator's comments: After a long hiatus from ACR, I bring California State Route 54, a freeway in the South Bay region of San Diego County.


 * Nominated by: Rschen7754 07:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * First comment occurred: 23:29, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Infobox and Intro Route description History Junction list Overall Your writing is exceptionally good. Few grammar mistakes were in the article, and this article is nearly perfect. It wouldn't be long before this article could become an FA. Kevon kevono (talk) 23:29, 23 July 2016 (UTC) 16:28 (PDT)
 * The route should take more of the map.
 * I don't understand what you are saying here. --Rschen7754 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The map is too big and the route takes up little of the area of the map. Kevon kevono (talk) 03:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC) 20:25 (PDT)
 * Uploaded a new map. --Rschen7754 02:57, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Should the major intersections section of the infobox should have 2 sections, since SR 54 consists of 2 sections?
 * Done. --Rschen7754 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * SR 54 doesn't exactly end on a street, the route more or less is a dead end state-maintenance-wise.
 * Jamacha Road is the continuation of SR 54 north to its original terminus at I-8. --Rschen7754 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Intro is good.
 * "As the freeway turns north, it merges with SR 125] north, and SR 54 exits at Jamacha Boulevard in La Presa." The second comma I think is a grammar error. I'll be removing it soon.
 * There's nothing wrong with a comma there, but okay. --Rschen7754 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Of section 1 of SR 54, does SR 54 end here or here? Of section 2 of SR 54, does SR 54 end here or here? Kevon kevono (talk) 16:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC) 09:37 (PDT) I'm confused.
 * From the article: "As the freeway turns north, it merges with SR 125 north and SR 54 exits at Jamacha Boulevard in La Presa." and "SR 54 then runs concurrently with SR 94 through the unincorporated, but developed, area of Rancho San Diego, following Campo Road about one-half mile (800 m) east." Those should answer your questions. --Rschen7754 19:12, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Other than that, RD is good.
 * "This portion of freeway opened on September 27, 1963, and the entire project cost $2.25 million (about $37 million in 2015 dollars)" (and other sections) These money comparison facts should be updated to 2016 dollars.
 * Perhaps, but the data has only been released for 2015, not 2016. --Rschen7754 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Citation 13: Here's a link for the non-link citation: http://archive.org/stream/californiahighwa196465calirich#page/n3/mode/2up
 * Added. --Rschen7754 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I fixed a space between "…accomplished in a single year by the county board of supervisors" and citation 26. You can revert it if you want.
 * "The project to convert the HOV lanes to regular mixed traffic lanes was authorized in 2006." Do you mean "The project to remove the HOV lanes was authorized in 2006."? I didn't get what you meant.
 * The HOV lanes would not be HOV lanes anymore. "Remove" is a bit ambiguous, as it could mean that the lanes were removed entirely. --Rschen7754 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "As of October 2014, Caltrans was considering relinquishing the part of SR 54…" Are they still considering? Oct. 2014 is a bit outdated.
 * Haven't heard or found anything. --Rschen7754 04:10, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent and descriptive prose. You have really good writing skills.
 * Thanks! --Rschen7754 16:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The intersection with I-805, SR 125, and SR 94 aren't in any location? I think the intersection with SR 94 is in the unincorporated city of Rancho San Diego.
 * Added the one for SR 94. --Rschen7754 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the intersection with I-805 is either in National City or Chula Vista, and the one with SR 125 is in La Presa. Kevon kevono (talk) 16:30, 10 August 2016 (UTC) 09:30 (PDT)
 * As far as I-805, neither. I've updated the article accordingly. --Rschen7754 20:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * All replied to. --Rschen7754 17:40, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You didn't reply to one question about the relinquishing thing. Kevon kevono (talk) 03:25, 26 July 2016 (UTC) 20:25 (PDT)
 * Replied now. --Rschen7754 04:10, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied again. --Rschen7754 02:57, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Replied again. --Rschen7754 19:12, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

*Support I now support the ACR nomination. Kevon kevono (talk) 20:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC) 13:25 (PDT)


 * As Kevon kevono is inactive and unable to support or oppose, I have collapsed the comments. --Rschen7754 07:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I endorse this action. –Fredddie™ 04:40, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Review by Fredddie

 * Looks good, I support. –Fredddie™ 21:41, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Image review by Dough4872
Comments:
 * File:California 54.svg - PD-MUTCD-CA
 * File:California State Route 54 map cropped.svg - cc-by-sa-4.0, GFDL, has sources
 * File:CA 54 eastern terminus.jpg - cc-by-sa-4.0
 * File:CaliforniaRoute54a.jpg - PD-user-en
 * File:SR 54 and SR 94.jpg - GFDL, cc-by-sa-all
 * 1) Captions look fine.   Dough   4872   01:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Note: The review has been suspended for being inactive for 30 days and having outstanding comments. It may be reactivated at any time in the next 6 months. --Rschen7754 07:16, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Reactivating. --Rschen7754 19:06, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Lead: Route description:
 * The lead leaves me with one big unanswered question, "why aren't the two sections connected". The implied answer is that the middle section was relinquished to the county and now part of CR S17. I'd advise to make that explicit (if true) and if not true re-word to remove the implication.
 * It's not true. I've tried to reword appropriately. --Rschen7754 02:08, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Westfield Plaza Bonita wikilink?
 * Done. --Rschen7754 04:40, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "SR 54 exits at Jamacha Boulevard in La Presa" This is a little rough. It also seemingly contradicts the last 2 sentences in this same paragraph, which claim that Jamacha Boulevard is not SR 54. How about replacing the latter part of this paragraph with something like this, "The SR designation officially ends at the Jamacha Boulevard exit in La Presa, with a gap in the route along the county maintained portion of Jamacha Boulevard. State maintenance and the SR 54 designation resume at the intersection of Jamacha Boulevard and Campo Road. However, Jamacha Boulevard formerly carried the SR 54 designation, and is still marked as such on some maps."
 * Clarified. --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * What's with the bolded names near the bottom of the route description? Currently only "South Bay Freeway" redirects to SR-54. Even if the other redirects were created, the bolded instance of Jamacha Boulevard is about the 5th mention in the article (the first is in the lead). Based on what I see, I'd work a bolded "South Bay Freeway" into the lead and de-bold the rest.
 * Done. --Rschen7754 04:40, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * wikilink Caltrans in the phrase "Caltrans District 11" (It's wikilinked in the infobox but not in prose)
 * Done. --Rschen7754 04:40, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

History:
 * "The earliest predecessor to SR 54 existed from 1908" And that earliest predecessor was? How about something like, "An unpaved road with a similar route to modern SR 54 first appeared on maps in 1908"?
 * Done. --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Now SR 54 (IMO, that just adds confusion as the previous sentence is set in 1908 and the next in 1990)
 * Done. --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "from US 80 around El Cajon" Being as how a non-roadgeek will have a tough time knowing where US 80 ran at the time, how about including the modern street name? I.E. "from US 80 (now Main St.) around"
 * Done, but had to add a source to back it up. --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The article has a red linked "light footed clapper rail". Being an endangered species this SURELY has an article, just under a different title. That would be like seeing a red link to Highway Mother Road 66 to a roadgeek. I'm 99.9% sure the appropriate article is Ridgway's rail, check out the article, specifically the sub-species section and reference #4 and see if you agree, and if so pipe-link it.
 * Adjusted to clapper rail since Ridgway's rail appears to no longer be considered a subspecies. --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "SR 54 from the El Cajon city limit to I-8 to the City of El Cajon in 1999,[59] and the transfer took place that year.[4]" Is this the same relinquishment that caused the gap in route? or is this a different relinquishment? Please clarify
 * I've noted that this is the eastern portion - there was also only one relinquishment as noted above. --Rschen7754 02:08, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Finished. Best of luck. Dave (talk) 20:07, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
 * All done and thanks for the review! --Rschen7754 17:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've blocked some wikipedia time out early next week. I'll finish this up then. Dave (talk) 17:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Vote to promote, much better. I will make an optional suggestion, consider wikilinking the first instance of Campo. I'm making this optional as there are reasons to do it, and reasons not to do it; namely the link is to the town, and the use in the article is the street (that leads to the town of the same name). Dave (talk) 00:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


 * The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.