Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Assessment/A-Class Review/Ontario Highway 402

Ontario Highway 402
review
 * Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
 * Nominator's comments: In hopes of bridging the line of Featured articles between Michigan and New York, I present Highway 402 for review! It's been a couple years since this went through GAN, so it may need tweaking. If you spot a full paragraph that seems wonky, just point out which one and I'll do a rewrite of it. Overall, however, it is high quality, comprehensive, and well sourced.


 * Nominated by:  Floydian  τ ¢  21:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * First comment occurred: 03:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Review by Dough4872

 * I will review this article.  Dough 48  72  03:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Comments:
 * 1) Why is I-94 listed before I-69 in the infobox and exit list? Typically with concurrent routes of the same type we list the lower number first.
 * 2) The phrase "Motorists crossing into Michigan at the western end have direct access to Detroit via I-94 and Chicago and Minneapolis-St. Paul via I-69" needs a citation. Also, if you keep this phrasing, you need to elaborate how one gets to Chicago and Minneapolis-St. Paul as I-69 does not make it to either of those cities. I would simply reword this to "Motorists crossing into Michigan at the western end have direct access to I-69 and I-94".
 * 3) "With the exception of the Front Street interchange in Sarnia, the freeway features Parclos throughout its length", what kind of interchange is Front Street?
 * 4) The sentence "After interchanging with Forest Line, the freeway is crossed over by London Line, momentarily diverging from its straight alignment while dipping south of Warwick (where London Line meets Egremont Road and continues east of Warwick north of the highway)." reads awkward. I would also ditch the parentheses and incorporate into the sentence.
 * 5) "When it was opened at some point between 1946 and 1949, it featured at-grade crossings with Front Street, Indian Road and Modeland Road (the Highway 40 Sarnia bypass).", do we have a more exact date for this?
 * 6) Same concerns with the formatting of the border crossing in the exit list, should look like it does in Ontario Highway 61 and Ontario Highway 71.  Dough  48  72  04:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed
 * I've just changed it to say I-69/I-94 into Port Huron, Michigan. Do you still feel this needs a source since the RD sources the same info?
 * Added. Diamond/Parclo B-2 hybrid
 * switched it around a bit, how does it look now?
 * I don't have an exact date, but I found another source that gives a better impression.
 * Fixed
 * --  Floydian  τ ¢  08:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - Article looks good now.  Dough 48  72  01:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - Article is well written and has good structure. Haljackey (talk) 23:50, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * As this is not a substantial review, I am not inclined to count it for the purposes of the net 3 support. --Rschen7754 04:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed, a proper third review is required. -  Floydian  τ ¢  06:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Review by Fredddie
Let's have a look. –Fredddie™ 04:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Infobox and lead
 * 1) Handy reminder for inset map on File:Ontario 402 map.svg
 * 2) Is it necessary to say Point Edward, Ontario?
 * 3) What quantifies a "sizable community"?


 * RD
 * 1) "...providing a quicker route over the busier Ambassador Bridge crossing in Windsor, which also has 13 traffic lights leading to the bridge.[3]" "Also" makes it read like both 401 and 402 have traffic lights, except you said 402 is non-stop.
 * 2) I don't like using interchange as a verb. I read it as "trading places" not "cars exiting the highway".
 * 3) could you crop your Highway 4 photo so the horizon is level?


 * History
 * 1) I'm not going to force it, but I think a mini-lead would look better than starting the section with a 3rd-level header.
 * 2) You use alignment/re-aligned three times in quick succession.


 * Overall
 * Only a few things to look over and I fixed some minor stuff myself. –Fredddie™ 05:04, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * Added, although you may need to purge your cache to get it to appear.
 * I suppose not, fixed.
 * Changed it to "the only town", since all other places near the freeway are little villages / unincorporated communities.


 * RD
 * Originally it said "suffers from 13...", which I felt was an appropriate way to describe the pros/cons of one route over the other... but I've tried another wording that should work.
 * I've always agreed with that, to be quite honest. Fixed the few instances.
 * Fixed it for him.


 * History
 * Added a minilead. As it encompasses all the sourced facts contained within the subsequent sections, I've left it without refs as I normally have done in such situations.
 * Changed it up a bit.


 * Cheers,  Floydian  τ ¢  21:59, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's been my experience at FAC that they want refs in those mini leads. –Fredddie™ 02:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Refs added. -  Floydian  τ ¢  13:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

–Fredddie™ 18:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Review by Admrboltz

 * File:Ontario_402.svg - PD-ineligible
 * Now, I get why the original crappy shields were pd-i, but the new ones seem a bit more involved. That crown is pretty intricate for pd-i... Maybe these should be re-tagged (as a batch) as PD-Self or something similar. --  Admr Boltz  18:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * When I uploaded them the first reaction by many was to delete them and restore the old junction shields... The original shield with a crown was introduced in 1930 and the modern design of the crown in 1955, so these can all be tagged as PD-Canada-Crown now that the issue around the URAA has been dealt with. I've retagged this shield for now, will have to do a batch of the others sometime. -  Floydian  τ ¢  22:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Works for me, and retagged all other ONT markers. --  Admr Boltz  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Ontario 402 map.svg - CC-BY-SA-3.0, needs GIS sources
 * Added. -  Floydian  τ ¢  22:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Works for me. --  Admr Boltz  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Controlled-Access Highway.jpg - CC-BY-SA-3.0,GFDL (Self)
 * File:Highway 401-Highway 402 interchange.jpg - CC-BY-SA-3.0,GFDL (Self)
 * File:402 through Sarnia.png - CC-BY-SA-3.0 Keep Local (is on commons)
 * Flickr is blocked at work, will confirm flickr license when I go home. --  Admr Boltz  18:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's actually CC-BY-SA-2.0 on Flickr. I have corrected it on both image pages. –Fredddie™ 18:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Works for me. --  Admr Boltz  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Highway 402 from Highway 4 cropped.png PD-ineligable.
 * Source image is CC-BY-SA-3.0, GFDL (Self). This work should be licensed the same with PD-Retouched for the crop. Also needs extracted from and orig needs extracted. --  Admr Boltz  18:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure if I did this all correctly. There was no PD-Retouched template, so I just wrote that the retouching is released under the same licence. Not sure what is needed on the original, so I linked the retouched as a "other version". -  Floydian  τ ¢  22:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Works for me. --  Admr Boltz  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * File:Highway 402 approaching Blue Water Bridge, June 2013.jpg - CC-BY-SA-3.0,GFDL (Self)

--  Admr Boltz  18:31, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Images all check out. --  Admr Boltz  04:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

So... I am going to be nitpicky... since I can't find all that much wrong with it... --  Admr Boltz  18:00, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Nexus → NEXUS
 * There is a - at the top of the exit list. In my screen resolution this doesn't seem needed, is it on yours?
 * Redirect the red links to the county road list like is done with Lambton County Road 8, etc.
 * Add a link to the Sarnia Chris Hadfield Airport in the RJL notes column for Airport Road.
 * Fixed
 * No, but I'm stuck at 1024x768 at the moment. I imagine a very wide monitor might get issues with the photo nudging the junction list to the right and the article not looking as tidy as it could.
 * Done
 * Added
 * Glad you found it difficult to find issues, that means the ACR process works well methinks :) Cheers,  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  19:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - Looks good. I am at 1280 x 1024 and don't have issues. You're probably safe to remove the clear. --  Admr Boltz  19:12, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Source 3: 13 isn't in the source.
 * Source 4: currently -> as of X. Also, "a new route known as the Windsor–Essex Parkway" now disagrees with source 4, where a new name is given.
 * Source 5: Good on V and CP.
 * Source 20: does not back up the entire paragraph for the second citation.
 * Source 21: dead link.
 * Source 34: Good on V and CP, but "that of a man who succumbed to hypothermia on a nearby county road" is not an independent clause.
 * Source 35: Good on V and CP.

The results of the spotcheck are a bit disappointing, in particular source 3 and 20. Please go through the entire article and make sure that all statements are backed up by sources, and post here when you have done so.

In addition, I am happening to notice stuff that should have been pointed out by other reviewers, and am uncomfortable with signing off on a spotcheck when there could be other issues. Thus, in order to uphold our high standards at ACR, I will be conducting a fourth review of the article, and will be procedurally Opposing this article until I have done this additional review, and when the above issues have been fixed, including the additional source checking. --Rschen7754 07:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I will also note that I am not trying to discourage those who reviewed this article, but to advise all our regular ACR reviewers to take a bit more care with their reviews. --Rschen7754 07:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed the two big ones. I had used the wrong ref for one and copied the other from the Highway 401 article without checking. The dead link has been updated to the new links and other changes made. As I said, this article was promoted to GA a while ago and I expected some issues to arise. -  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  00:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you believe that there are other instances of this, apart from the sources that I checked? --Rschen7754 06:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking over it, there was one case of a fact not in an article and one case of a google maps link referencing a 1964 date. I've fixed these, and upon scanning the full article, I believe it is now properly referenced. -  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  18:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll mark the spotcheck complete, and begin my review soon. --Rschen7754 18:43, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Images
 * Captions should not have a period if they are not a complete sentence, and should if they are.
 * Map needs a caption.
 * RJL
 * No periods in the notes
 * References
 * No ALLCAPS in the references
 * Lead
 * Controlled access should be linked earlier than it is
 * The freeway originally did not exit Sarnia -> something is missing
 * RD
 * is under construction as of August 2011 -> three years ago...
 * History
 * It forced drivers off -> too vague

Should be good for a support after this. --Rschen7754 20:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing the ALLCAPS ref was the "PRESS RELEASE", which I've fixed. Captions should be good now, RJL notes fixed, CAH better linked. The sentence you pointed out is correct: the freeway was originally within the Sarnia city limits. I could make it "...did not exit the Sarnia city limits" if that would help? Construction on the 401 extension began in 2011 and will continue until 2020, but I made that sentence read better nonetheless. I hope I've managed to clarify the last point as well now. Cheers,  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  21:11, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * that would be fine. --Rschen7754 19:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. -  Floydian  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  21:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Support issues resolved. --Rschen7754 21:29, 7 March 2014 (UTC)