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Interstate 470 (Kansas)
I reviewed this article at GAN. In an effort to improve 's writing, I did an in-depth review. I moved that part here in order to get more comments from others who will be watching. –Fredddie™ 02:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Review from Fredddie

 * Lead
 * The first sentence can be rewritten so it's clear that it's bypassing Topeka's downtown area.
 * . -- P C  B  22:32, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * According to all the maps I've looked at, I-470 goes southeast, not south.
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You've already established how interstates are abbreviated, so spelling out I-335 and abbreviating it is redundant. (Just abbreviate it)
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "I-470 becomes part of the Kansas Turnpike until it reaches its eastern terminus with I-70." Both it and its are ambiguous here.
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The last sentence glosses over the construction of the western end a little too much.
 * Fixed. -- P C  B  23:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Route description
 * "..which is at that point concurrent with State Highway 4 and US 40.[2]" It's not clear if those two routes are concurrent with I-70 or I-470.
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You use concurrent in two consecutive sentences; use synonyms.
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Do the suburbs have names?
 * Yes they do. Added. -- P C  B  23:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If two routes are concurrent, they can't possibly meet again. Think of it this way, if you're already sitting next to your friend, you can't meet them – they're already there!
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "I-470, however, continues southeastward until it reaches I-335, which finds its terminus at I-470 at this interchange." This sentences has a couple of issues itself.
 * "...however, ..." isn't necessary.
 * "...which finds its terminus at I-470 at this interchange..." is way wordy. "...which ends at the I-470 interchange..." is clear and concise.
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "I-335 is also known as the Kansas Turnpike at this point and I-470, turning abruptly northeast at this point, comprises the next portion of the Kansas Turnpike.[4][5]"
 * "South of this interchange, I-335 is part of the Kansas Turnpike. I-470 merges onto the turnpike and the two routes head northeast towards I-70."
 * . -- P C  B  22:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No part of the Kansas Turnpike, or any toll road, should be called a freeway. Use tollway instead.
 * . -- P C  B  23:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * In the last sentence of the RD, "its" is ambiguous again.
 * . -- P C  B  23:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

To allay Admrboltz's fears below, I am going to rewrite this section. I will do my best to use as much of your work as I can. –Fredddie™ 04:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. I added another paragraph. -- P C  B  15:41, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * History
 * The section is out of order. I do like how you talk about the interstates in Topeka as a whole, so let's keep that structure.
 * The sentence about the Kansas Turnpike should be first, since it was there first.
 * Then talk about the Interstate Highway System's creation and the freeways planned.
 * Is there a yellow book map of Topeka? Check Commons.
 * Construction of said freeways
 * How many years?
 * How much did it cost?


 * The last paragraph is sloppy. If the first paragraph shapes up with my suggestions, the second could be cleaned up and merged in.
 * I mentioned it above, but part of the interstate was named after MLK. This would be a good place to put it.
 * I fixed the structure, but I didn't find the cost yet. -- P C  B  00:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Exit list
 * Check MOS:RJL for header compliance.
 * Do KSDOT and KTA provide official lengths?
 * KSDOT provided official lengths here, but some of the exits aren't listed. What can I do? -- P C  B  23:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Could the first two exits be combined into one line?
 * . -- P C  B  23:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There has to be a better way to show the toll booth. The bold colspan has to be removed per WP:MOSBOLD