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Round 8 Answer Tally
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Q1
Again starting with a loosener. This target of an acid attack was portrayed in the media of a European country as someone who has the ammo to bring down the government of that country. Who am I talking about and which is the European country? --Gurubrahma 15:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Guruji, u call this a loosener? I wonder what the future questions entail :(. All my googling has failed. With noone having attempted yet, can I ask when the first hint is coming? My eyes are drowsy after all this googling...-- Lost 19:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I can understand your frustration which has led to this forum and myself getting prominent footage in an unrelated talk page ;) (Uninitiated may check out lost's last msg. on my talk page). Ok, the acid attack need not have anything to do with the European country i'm talking of. When I say "Ammo" I use it metaphorically - it could be secrets, connections etc. as well. And the last hint before dawn - we can connect this person to P. V. Narasimha Rao with just one degree of separation. --Gurubrahma 20:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The only acid attack that I can remember from this region is that of the IAS officer Chandralekha during the time of the previous Jayalalitha govt. But that wasn't that big an issue. Tintin (talk) 06:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I managed to dig that too but could nt find any ammo with her that could bring down a govt. -- Lost 06:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, you guys have got the gender correct. Would it help if I were to say that this European country was a colonial power in India? Also, it may be better to forget abt the PV Narasimha Rao bit because it may not be very easy to make that connect. Also, think when the impact of acid attack is the most - when it is a beautiful face, right? --Gurubrahma 07:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Easy guess.. Pamela Bordes &mdash; Ravikiran 08:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

de-indenting Indeed! It is Pamella Bordes, ex-Miss India who sent the British media into a tizzy so much that they drew parallels with Mata Hari. One degree separation with PV is that Chandraswami was perceived as his Guru and Pamella accused Chandraswami of making her a call-girl. Thanks to Nichalp's last question you were looking at lesser colonial powers such as Portugal rather than England :). Or probably, the acid attack on her isn't that well known. I've also found two redlinks - Ruchita Prasad and Rekha Hande who preceded and succeeded Pamella as Miss India. Without further ado, I invite Ravikiran to ask the next question. --Gurubrahma 09:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't think of a question right now. I will ask one tomorrow morning India time. &mdash; Ravikiran 16:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It's coming to be afternoon; where's the question?! -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 07:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Q2
I can't think of a hard question... so I am asking an easy one, worse still, an easily googleable one.

The First Amendment to the American constitution guaranteed its citizens certain rights - freedom of speech and religion. The First Amendment to the Indian constitution restricted the fundamental rights of its citizens. Basically, if the government wanted a particular law to be immune to judicial review, it could place it in the __________. Fill in the blank. (Two words). &mdash; Ravikiran 07:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 9th schedule of the constitution? -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph07:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. That is correct! Over to you Deepu. &mdash; Ravikiran 08:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Next question around 6 PM IST. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph11:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Damn! For the first time, somebody put up a question that I knew backwards and forwards; I've studied the entire dumb constitution and all the dumb amendments; and I wasn't around to answer this question!-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 15:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hehe...I got that one easily as the 9th schedule is hot in the news here with the government going to include a controversial law in it. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph16:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Q3
Simple one: In 1882, a new technological innovation was brought to India for the first time. This innovation (at a much later date) was instrumental in the naming of a magazine. The magazine (and its editor)clue staring you in the face went on to become immensely popular &mdash; so much so, that almost all the necessary content for the magazine was contributed by its readers. So, which magazine am I talking about? -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph12:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Reader's Digest? -- Lost 13:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph13:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * First, the innovation that was introduced in India in 1882 is the telephone. In 1986, GETIT yellow pages was launched. Later, Tata followed. I hope there is partial credit if the second part of the answer is wrong ;) --Gurubrahma 13:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Associated Press of India? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The Telegraph? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Gurubrahma, you are correct with the first part. (but sadly, the question asks only the second part ;-) ). Sundar, good guess, but the telegraph is not a magazine. Clue comes in 15 mins. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Clue #1 : A Prime Minster once compared the editor of this magazine to Jawaharlal Nehru -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Tinkle.. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * ew, why didn't I look at Deepu Joseph's contribs for the day? too bad :-? --Gurubrahma 18:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I beat you at social networking this time. Hope I am right. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, Ambuj, you are absolutey correct. Evertime the editors joined to name the magazine, the telephone tinkled, and hence it became Tinkle. Also, Vajpayee commented that Anat Pai (better known as Uncle Pai) was the second most popular uncle since Chacha Nehru. Guruji, I normally wouldn't have edited it just yesterday if not for the utter chaos on the page. (so dont get high hopes for my next question. ;-) ) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph04:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A suggestion to all question posers. Make sure you don't pick up something what you edited in the past 1-2 days. A lot of us have fallen prey to spying tactics. Next question in a few hours (just confirming how difficult it would be to get through google). &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:22, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Q4
This one is OR, and I hope I get this correct. What radio broadcasting term, though quite generic (and not a euphemism), is used exclusively in India? Although I have a specific answer in mind, any correct answer will get the thumbs up.

A bonus question (without any credit): Who was the first Indian women to fly abroad (India to abroad; not abroad to abroad, or abroad to India)? &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:41, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Radio Jockey. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And, if you consider mythological characters, Sita for the bonus qn? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Both correct. Solved in 5 minutes. Over to you. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The first thing that came to my mind on seeing "a radio broadcasting term" was this and I checked out. Next question at 8 PM, IST. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Q5
Connect the following: You need to find out the connection and the names of the above three entities. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * a prestigious university
 * a famous lake
 * a historically important political party

More clues: - the lake is sacred for many Indians and the prestigious university is known for its business school. It can't get easier than this, can it? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The connection is Nehru? Lake: Dal Lake (one end of it is Nehru Park); party, INC; and university is IIT? - Cribananda 15:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This is almost a valid answer. But, I had another in mind. Perhaps I should've been more specific. My first clue: One or more of the above three need not be in India. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 15:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A clue before I sign-off for the day: the connection is a person and he's alive. Sorry for not giving an easier clue. ;) I may not be back until 11 AM tomorrow. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 16:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Harvard, Masarovar, INC. Connect = Chidambaram.-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(esperanza elections!) 11:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You're partially correct. But, I'm willing to grant you that if you can establish this connection even though it's partially different from the set I had in mind. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I may leave in a while and may not come online tomorrow. If someone finds an unambiguous connection, let them have it. Will come on Monday morning IST. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Subramanian Swamy is the unambiguous connect. Harvard University, Kailash Mansarovar and Janata Party are the answers. He studied and teaches at Harvard; persuaded Chinese authorities to open Mansarovar to piligrims from India; was part of Janata Party during emergency and is the current national president of its remnant parts. --Gurubrahma 15:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes Guru. You take it. With this answer you need not have waited for my say. ;) By the way, his birth place is Tenkarai, a village on the other bank of River Vaigai from Sholavandan where I grew up. So, I'm away from Harvard by just a passing river. ;) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

de-indenting I was disheartened after seeing the question as it looked tough. the worst thing is that it was me who started Subramanian Swamy with all the above details and so I shd hv got it in a jiffy. Anyways, as theysay, better late than never! --Gurubrahma 09:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Q6
An easy question to make up for the lost time - this person was the information & broadcasting (I&B) minister in the union cabinet and went on to become the prime minister. This person became famous for resigning from the I&B ministry due to interference by an "extra-constitutional authority." Who is this person I am talking of? If you find this question tough, you shd be updating the leaderboard at least. ;) --Gurubrahma 09:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indira Gandhi? -- Lost 10:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Inder Kumar Gujral -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Damn, all I had to do was look further down in the Indira Gandhi article. - Lost 10:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed! and with that, the baton goes back to Sundar who is leading the table. Could someone pl. update the scoreboard?? --Gurubrahma 10:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I looked at the prime ministers whom I knew were ministers in previous cabinets preferably during regimes where an "extra-constitutional authority" could've exerted power. Next question at 5 PM IST. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Shockingly easy question GB! =Nichalp   «Talk»=  16:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Q7
(Thanks for updating the leaderboard, Deepu.) I think people wouldn't want another question related to Indian politics. So, here goes the question: This "heavier" variant of a very common substance is being produced in a port town since 1978. Find the substance and the town. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thoothukudi, more famous as Tuticorin has a heavy water plant since 1978. --Gurubrahma 11:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Amazing speed. Guru takes it. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I missed this question 'coz of the INSAT launch. Yet another sad day for India. Yesterday the Agni, and today, the INSAT...... :-( -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph
 * Deepu, sign your comments! -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)  13:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh! Seeing it blow up live seems to have put me off track... :P Thanks, Shreshth!-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Q8
I hope this is tough enough but I guess it is googleable. Ok, here goes: This (debut) English play set in Mumbai won an international prize for the best new international play and was made into a Hindi film later. Identify the playwright and the female protagonist. --Gurubrahma 13:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Could it be Mulit? Playwrights: Lynn Branecky/ Joseph Mazzaferro, female protagonist -- Richa Pallod. The award that this short 2003 musical won was the IFF -- Lost 15:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. Hint: The playwright is also an Indian. --Gurubrahma 16:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sharon Prabhakar, Alyque Padamsee? =Nichalp   «Talk»=  16:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope, but you've caught a great red link there! The play is set in near future and won the prize in 1997. I want the complete answer, i.e., both parts. --Gurubrahma 17:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Harvest, Manjula Padmanabhan, Ginni. - Cribananda 17:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify - I want the actress, not the name of the character. --Gurubrahma 04:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Julie Ames/ Kitu Gidwani - depending on who you call protagonist. - Cribananda 04:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Kitu Gidwani was who I was looking for, she was India's highest paid model before 1990, the link must turn blue. And over to Cribananda. --Gurubrahma 07:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm off to sleep. Next question in about 9 hours. - Cribananda 07:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Q9
Sorry for the delay. Complete. (Loose translation of lines from the Katha-Upanishad) "Like __________ is the path: narrow and hard to tread. The way to enlightenment is thus hard." - Cribananda 17:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * a razor? -- Lost 17:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Close, but sorry, can't give it to you (yet). - Cribananda 17:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Could it be "The razor's edge" - the name of the book by Somerset Maugham -- Lost 17:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed. Now you shall have it. - Cribananda 17:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * phew, in my hurry, i forgot to write that this line seems to have been the inspiration for the book's title. . Well next question by 10.30 am IST unless I am awake for some time tonight, in which case it will be around 1 am -- Lost 17:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Q10
This non Indian businessman recently got into trouble with an Indian God. Name him -- Lost 05:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well no tries yet... I guess the question is too loose.. Ok, first hint: He is an American businessman -- Lost 15:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I didnt the question was that tough... Well two giveaway hints:
 * This is a current event
 * If you saw a pattern in most of my previous questions, the pattern is followed here too:) -- Lost 06:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, Lost, you need to work better on your giveaway hints :-) American businessman wasn't much of a hint either :-) - Cribananda 06:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "recently got into trouble" --> This is a current event (we knew that)
 * "If you saw a pattern in most of my previous questions" --> This is your first question this round. Some people like me are too lazy to check archives and too careless to have paid attention to who asked what questions.
 * More hints. Please -- Samir   धर्म 06:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I guess I am taking too much for granted... The previous questions refers to the fact that this question is also related to The Himalayas... And another hint, the American businessman also goes by an Indian name -- Lost 06:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well another hint, he has a very famous surname -- Lost 06:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Still no responses so another hint: the "trouble" was due a proposed business venture -- Lost 11:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Alfred Ford, something about a ski village... --h y dka t 11:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yup, right the first time ... -- Lost 11:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Will give the next question sometime around midnight, sorry didn't expect to answer a question :) --h y dka t 11:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Q11
A little background as a clue for answering my question, sit back and read for a while. The Germans in the beginning of WWII had really very few first-class warships. They had three that they classified as...(well, I'm not going to tell you that!) These ships were more powerful than anything that they could not outrun, and could outrun almost anything they could not outgun. Only three British battlecruisers and two French battlecruisers of the Dunkerque class were superior in both speed and firepower. One of these German ships was in the South Atlantic the time war was declared and immediately went to business sinking nine merchant ships in four months. Which unfortunately brought it into confrontation with the three British warships that were specifically sent to sink it (and quite capable of doing so). After a spectacular battle with the three Allied ships (one of which was so badly damaged and listing that it later had to be abandoned.) the German ship was chased to a nearby neutral port where its captain scuttled it, instead to going back to battle at sea (much to the disappointment of the crowd that had gathered to see an actual sea battle)
 * Now, one of the Allied ships later attained a direct Indian connection. Name that warship. --h y dka t 20:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The German ship in question is Admiral Graf spee & the three British ships are HMS Exeter, HMS Ajax & HMS Achillies in the Battle of the River Plate. HMS Achillies is the one with the Indian connection having been sold to the Indian Navy and recommissioned as INS Delhi. --Srikeit (Talk 21:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * For good measure, I would like to tell the class of the three first-class german warships - Panzerschiff. --Srikeit (Talk 21:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool... That was less than an hour. Sorry for the delay... over to you. --h y dka t 10:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Woohoo!! My first correct answer here!! I'll try to get the next question in by 19:00 IST. --Srikeit (Talk 10:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Q12
A relatively easy one. Derive a connection between an Ujjain king & Russia. --Srikeit (Talk 13:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Admiral Gorshkov. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Also see INS Vikramaditya. Russian Aircraft carrier's new name. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Didn't last even half an hour :( Well over to you Ambuj & please do make it tougher than mine! --Srikeit (Talk 19:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Q13
Hopefully this won't be googlable (and is also unrelated to my contributions). Where are the warheads for Prithvi missile manufactured? &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A number of components come from DRDL, ASL and RCI in Hyderabad. I'm pretty sure the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP) was based here as Dr. Abdul Kalam for a long time did his work from here. --h y dka t 20:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Include Bharat Dynamics Limited(BDL) to that list above... --h y dka t 20:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe the warheads are manufactured at ARDE (Armament Research and Development Establishment) in Pune and TBRL (Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory) in Chandigarh. However, the assembly and integration are done at 333rd Missile Regiment based in Secunderabad. --Gurubrahma 10:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This is what I got -- Lost 11:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * None of the above. They talk about either the assembly or controls or body of the missile, but not the warhead. On another note, I am sure that there won't be any web references for it (as it is probably not so open information), and I even doubt if I should be giving the answer here. I got to know this through a relative who was indirectly involved in the project. Even when I search the answer string, I don't get any relevant results. Keeping these things in mind, and knowing those who don't know yet won't be able to crack it by googling, I wonder if I should post a new question. If I don't get any answer by 18:00 UTC, I will post a new question. Hope this is okay with others. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * My last guess is Manuguru in AP. Also, if the info is not available in public domain, you shouldn't be posting the reply. Please change the question and don't give the answer for this! The question number would remain "13." --Gurubrahma 14:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OMG! Classified information! ;-) I would suggest you go ahead with a new question too. Without Google, we are all pretty much handicapped. Google is the secret of our intelligence! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, if the info is classified, its best to keep it classified. Definitely sounds like very sensitive info... Lets have the new question Ambuj. I am online for some time and raring to go!! - Lost 15:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Here's the new question. An easy one, I feel. Which railway station in India has all of the three gauges: Broad gauge, Meter gauge and Narrow gauge. Comment: I preferred this question to the others I had because I came to know this through an army-man, though the answer is cetrainly in PD. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:31, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Siliguri station (NFR)  -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph 15:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. Deepu got it. Now I think I can update the concerned articles. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. I'll put up the question right now. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph04:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Q14
What is Indian mathematics' connection with a cartoon series originally prepared for the Fox network?-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph04:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A Hint, a Hint! --h y dka t 08:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * yeah.. too esoteric for us simple souls:) -- Lost 12:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * yes... make it more exoteric. --h y dka t 13:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * lol. Hint #1 - The connection is a name. The Indian connection is male, the cartoony connection is female. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph13:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hint #2 - The cartoon series is very popular. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph14:08, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I have figured out the cartoon series (any points for that?). Cant figure out the mathematician though. Was always weak on math:) -- Lost 14:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC) thumb|150px|[[Manjula Nahasapeemapetilon]]
 * Dexter's Laboratory and DD Kosambi. The connect is Dee Dee (Dexter's sister). - Cribananda 17:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Well on second thought looks like the guy is not a mathematician. - Cribananda 17:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Manjula is the wife of Apu in The Simpsons. It looks like he/she is also a 10th-century Indian mathematician -- Lost 17:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, Manjula was indeed the connect I was looking for. Well done! Your turn now. NOTE: The mathematician doesnt seem to have an article on wikipedia.-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph17:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * LOL, couldnt have "lost" on a question about cartoons! Next question around 11 am IST. - Lost 17:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Q15
Sorry for the delay. Couldn't find anything tough. So here's an easy one. India is a founding member and the -- largest shareholder of. Where is it located and how many members are currently there? Easily googlable -- Lost 06:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Asian Development Bank Fourth largest shareholder of the same. --Idleguy 07:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Addendum. It is located in the Philippines and there are 65 members, (47 from the Asian region) --Idleguy 07:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed... Over to u Idleguy -- Lost 07:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * lol, after some time I'm back in the game. The next one will be up in a few minutes. --Idleguy 10:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Q16
Since I don't have the time to fully think this through, I'm giving something from one of my favourite subjects, wars and warriors. Here goes...

What is common to the following Military Generals who were the prime characters of the 1971 war?

Yahya Khan, Sam Manekshaw and AAK Niazi

Note:Excluding the fact that they all joined the British Indian Army and fought in WWII, and the Indo-Pak wars, there is one common thread for this trio of famous and infamous war veterans. --Idleguy 10:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * All three resigned from their jobs? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No, Manekshaw didn't resign. He retired in normal time. --Idleguy 10:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, I vaguely remember some differences he had with the political establishment that led to his leaving his job. I could be mistaken. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:55, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * All three are from punjab? --h y dka t 13:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yahya Khan was born in Peshawar. Idleguy 13:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yahya Khan was born in Chakwal in 1917, if the wikipedia article is right --h y dka t 13:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Someone needs to check that, cuz Britannica states Peshawar as well as other sites. A few claim it is Chakwal. Now, it seems a bit confusing. As for the question, the common thread is a very interesting link indeed. Idleguy 14:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Indian Military Academy at Dehra Dun? Because all the top officers of that era went there...? --h y dka t 18:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No, since I've already mentioned they all joined the British Indian Army, it is kind of implied they must have gone through IMA Dehra Dun, since it was THE academy in India then. That is something that every officer from that era had in common.


 * The common denominator for these men which I'm referring to is something not so common after all! :-) Idleguy 04:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * re-indenting This is a pure wild guess, but did they all have a love for (and own) Pomeranians or some other species of dogs? --h y dka t 06:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Lol. It's not a trivial connection for sure. HINT: It has to do with war and this commonality these 3 have occurs only during a conflict. --Idleguy 07:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Field Marshals =Nichalp   «Talk»=  07:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * A.A.K.Niazi was a Lieutenant General and never became a Field Marshal. Idleguy 07:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Military Cross awardees? =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * They do have military crosses but that wasn't what I am looking for since I've hinted already that it's an interesting link and medals aren't that interesting. The three shared the same fate not too uncommon in war. One even boasted of it! --Idleguy 09:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * OH! Ok they have all been shot in the line of duty... (probably all while leading a charge...) They almost died during these events but somehow survived. --h y dka t 09:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No, Niazi wasn't shot. Idleguy 10:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * (educated guess) All were taken as POWs at least once in their career? And I guess Manekshaw, being what he is, must have boasted about this. --Gurubrahma 10:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes. All three were taken as POWs. Manekshaw and Yahya during WWII and Niazi in the 71 war. However, it was Yahya Khan who boasted that he was once a POW and that he managed to escape adding that his counterpart Sam couldn't jail break, trying to indicate he would wriggle out of the 71 war unscathed. Over to you Guru --Idleguy 10:37, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Q17
Thanks Idleguy, that seemed to be the only plausible option left! Anyways, here comes Q17 - 've been rusty due to non-participation in the quiz for a while, so this question may indeed turn to be a sitter ;)! This person was associated with the monastic order of Ramakrishna Mission for some time. His comments on a famous personality on a talkshow led to the firing of the host of the talkshow (she resigned from the host position, according to some accounts), probably the first such occurrence in the history of Indian TV history? Who are the people I am talking about?? --Gurubrahma 11:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Nikki Bedi, Ashok Row Kavi and the famous person was Mahatma Gandhi? --h y dka t 13:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes hydkat, I was only half serious :( when i suggested that it wd be a sitter - I wanted the question to last for a day at least. --Gurubrahma 14:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well with most participants here the opposite of obtuse (with a lot of google juice driving them), you'll have to be profoundly vague and remote to achieve that. Give me some time to try for the same goal. --h y dka t 14:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Q18
Alright people: I'm back! And my question is a picture: Hopefully it's not too easy ;) --h y dka t 20:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed!! How does one google this?? - Lost 20:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * By doing some 'research' :) --h y dka t 20:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, this was an easy Google :-) "Dr Lalji Singh takes a buccal swab from an Onge tribal" from - Cribananda 05:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just for my knowledge, what keywords did you use in the search? -- Lost 05:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't remember exactly, but something like this .The first link works. - Cribananda 05:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if anyone would think to put in the keyword 'swab' (if no-one did, I was going to remind everyone of the footage of Saddam Hussain after he was captured.) Please take it away Cribananda --h y dka t 06:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI, Dr Lalji Singh is the head of the Center for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) in Hyderabad. --h y dka t 06:42, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for defaulting the last moment - I'm not going to be around this weekend (leaving soon). Can somebody else (hydkat again?) take over? Will make up by asking a bonus question some other time... :-) Sorry again. - Cribananda 22:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Q19
Hello, logged in just now. I guess I need ask a new question... well, here goes: Connect: Chhatrapati Maharaj, Controversy and Road traffic. This probably won't last long, Have fun :) --h y dka t 19:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Could this be referring to the installation of the statue of Sivaji Ganeshan dressed as Chhatrapati Maharaj in Marina Road -- Lost 03:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * yup, now get everone lost in the next question. --h y dka t 12:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yippee.. Next q up by around 11 pm IST -- Lost 12:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Q20
Name the two administrative divisions of India that would link Evan Jenkin and Herbert Beaumont. I hope I have made it as vague as possible, though I doubt it will last very long -- Lost 17:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Punjab. Evan Jenkin - the last governor of Punjab. Herbert Beaumont - Secretary to Sir Cyril John Radcliffe, planner of the partition.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:23, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ferozepore and Zira sub-district? Gurdaspur?--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Bang on spot... I came across the info while working on Ganeshbot's not created articles. I have been thinking whether to put this info up for DYK or not? Only holding back as it was very controversial. Would like to know from people here whether its worthy of DYK? The article in question is Zira (India) created on 20th. I have not yet added this info but have added a few relevant links on the talk page of the article. Over to you, Dwaipayanc -- Lost 18:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Need some time. Next question around 2 pm IST (24 July)...Do you want to put the revealation by Beaumont (in 1992) in DYK? It will be great. I read that Zira was supposedly given to Pakistan, but for some reason (as revealed by Beaumont in 1990s) it was given to India, right? And the story of original map given to Jenkin and later retrieved by Pakistani authority is also good. Since there are references, you can go for the DYK.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

update: article appeared on DYK on 25th July

Q21
Posting the question before time. Who taught Narada the art of music?--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Krishna? --h y dka t 10:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Hint: not any human/god.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Random guess: The veena? -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph13:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Some bird ? Tintin (talk) 14:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Was it Maya (illusion) disguised as a fisherman? -- Lost 14:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Was it Lord Vishnu in the incarnation as a fish(matsya)? --anirudh 18:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it a trick question? noone taught him? --Longhairandabeard 22:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This source says it's Shiva who blessed him with knowledge of classical music.--Longhairandabeard 22:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Another source says that it was Krishna who taught him. I am unable to find the source now. WIll add it as I find it -- Lost 02:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Dont get "lost", guys &mdash; read the hint : not any human/god. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph
 * Time for another hint then, I guess.. Btw.. thanks everyone for the welcome :-D Getting an article to DYK was the high point of this weekend for me.. which perhaps reflects how sad my life is..--Longhairandabeard 06:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. It is not a trick question. And I do not know if the thing that taught Narada music is some avatar or not. So far, Tintin is nearest. It is a bird. A particular kind of bird with a mythological name.--Dwaipayan (talk) 07:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it Panchama (cuckoo/nightingale)? --Srikeit (Talk 07:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Garuda would fit this hint, although I can't find anything to link him to the musical abilities of Narada. --Longhairandabeard 07:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I read it somewhere last week. Can't remember where. Tintin (talk) 07:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No it is not Garuda. Neither it is a cuckoo/nighingale. The mythological name is very uncommon, I heard it first time when I read the webpage. I doubt if anybody here has heard that name!
 * More hint: The creature lived near a famous lake.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I know you said a creature... but this source says its Goddess Sarasvati  --h y dka t  09:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's go with Hamsa, the vehicle of Sarasvati that resides in Lake Manasarovar -- Samir   धर्म  09:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Krowncha ? Tintin (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's Ganabandhu, an owl that lived by lake Manasarovar.--Longhairandabeard 10:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, well. I was looking for Ganabandhu the owl. Longhairandabeard got it. However, the Saraswati story is also there, as Hydkat has proved.It is difficult to decide which story is more true! If you people decide, this question may be cancelled. Otherwise, Longhairandabeard is the winner.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just as well.. Longhairandbeard, we await the next question from you... -- Lost 13:36, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey! Do I atleast get a point for answering the question right? even if they were multi choices? --h y dka t 15:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No no!!! Hydkat, you won't get any point. Because in one hint, I told it was not any god/human. Of course, your point of argument is valid. However, as we all at some point of time in our quizing career must have experienced, the decision of the quiz master is final, even if he sounds definitely wrong! Sorry :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yessss! My first win.. and I totally agree that the decision of the quiz master is final.. :D --Longhairandabeard 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Q22
Here comes the next question: The author of this work was so confident he declared, 'In the areas of ______, _______, ________, and _________, only whatever is in this work can be found in other works, whatever is not here cannot be found anywhere else.' Of course I am paraphrasing to reduce the googlability of the answer. What is this work and what goes in the blanks? --Longhairandabeard 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The Mahabharata. Blanks are: principles of material welfare, righteous conduct, emotional gratificaton and spiritual realisation . The sentence is also in Sanskrit literature -- Lost 17:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * kama (pleasure), artha (wealth), dharma (duty) and moksha (liberation).--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Lost got it. It's the 38th verse in the 5th canto of Book 18 of Mahabharata. You can find it here in Sanskrit. I'll try to be a little more obscure the next time I guess, with such maestros of Indian trivia around... Btw.. the actual sequence in the scriptures is Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha.. interesting to see the order of priorities for Dwaipayanc and Lost.. :D --Longhairandabeard 18:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd rather stick to my order of priorities than those prescribed by the other Dwaipayana. :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I can only blame/credit google for my answers. Though my priorities do seem to coincide with my search results :). Well, question coming up in few minutes. Keep refreshing that watchlist!! -- Lost 19:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Q23
This poet freedom fighter was conferred two honorary titles by two other prominent freedom fighters. The first title referred to his being a poet, the second referred to his freedom fighter part. Name him, and both the titles. Well guys, with so many history buffs around, I doubt this will last very long. But I am off to bed now and will check back only in the morning (IST)-- Lost 19:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sarojini Naidu. Nightingale of India (by Gandhi). Looking for the other title!--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope... U cant expect it to be that easy! -- Lost 19:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I better give a hint as I may not be online for a long time tomorrow. One title was given by a female and the other by a male -- Lost 19:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No attempts yet. So here's another minor hint. As mentioned above too, this person was a male, so that should cut out some more choices. Secondly, both his titles had a common word. I will now be online only in the evening. -- Lost 02:18, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I vaguely seem to remember reading somewhere that Manmath Nath Gupta was given a title by Chandrashekhar Azad. No online references, and I don't have a biography at hand. But there's a red link for you.. --Longhairandabeard 13:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, no... Not what I have in mind. I really didnt expect the question to last this long. Will give another hint if no answers are fothcoming... -- Lost 14:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hint! Hint! Hint! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)~
 * (edit conflict)Ah well, here's another hint... he was a hillbilly ( just like me ) and the common word is related to his ethnicity -- Lost 15:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * C'mon guys, there's enough masala for googling now. Well, here's the other info that I can give out, short of naming the person. 1. He died before we achieved independence 2. He adhered to principles of non violence -- Lost 17:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I got it.. It's Baba Kanshi Ram, poet from HP. Nehru called him 'Pahari Gandhi'. can't find the other title though.. --Longhairandabeard 17:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, giving it to you... The other title was by Sarojini Naidu who called him "Bulbul e pahar". Thats two red links u've caught now-- Lost 17:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I can work on them over the weekend.. if someone else doesn't take care of them till then.. --Longhairandabeard 17:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * update: 1 stub created -- Lost

Q24
The hero of this literary work was described as 'bare-wristed, for his golden bracelet has fallen off (because of emaciation)' (paraphrasing again). What literary work? --Longhairandabeard 17:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Dushmanta from Shakuntala by Kalidas? -- Lost 17:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * damn. . Dushyanta.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Nope. It is Meghaduta. --Gurubrahma 17:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * meghduta.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You guys are good!!! It's Meghaduta. Your turn, Guru. --Longhairandabeard 18:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Q25
Sitter, as I'd be travelling for several days starting tomorrow at 11 AM IST. Connect this linguistic community from India with the recently concluded football world cup. --Gurubrahma 20:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it Telugu, for Vikash Dhorasoo, member of the French team? --Longhairandabeard 21:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Very wild guess. Could we be referring to the proposed renaming of Trinidad Tobago team to Soca-Chutney warriors? -- Lost 04:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually this seems to be a better connection. The French speaking community of India going wild for the finals? -- Lost 05:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Linguistic -> Telugu. Longhairandabeard gets it, congrats to him for doing well despite entering the round late. As for the winners, we have joint winners for the first time in this quiz, myself and Lost. Considering that Longhairandbeard is new, can someone please do the archiving and set-up the next round so that he can ask the first question of next round easily? TIA, --Gurubrahma 05:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)