Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration/statementbyBastun

Ireland is ambiguous
This is self-evident.

A certain group of users are extremely insistent that the article on the state must reside on the page titled after the official name of that state and that this should supplant the article on the island.

A certain group of users are extremely insistent that the article should reside at Republic of Ireland as the use of the state's own official description is a workable counter to the ambiguity.

A certain group of users has proposed an "equal misery" compromise whereby disambig tags are added after the title (Ireland (Island) and Ireland (state).

The debate rears its head at periods ranging from weeks to months, but won't go away, despite a lack of consensus for a change. This is a content dispute, and therefore usually outside Arbcom's remit, but an Arbcom resolution might at least put an end to this for once and for all.

A characteristic of the debate has been polls conducted in sometimes unusual places, including a task force apparently set up to decide the issue, which hasn't always advertised itself and its polls as well as it might.


 * Disambiguation is needed;
 * Republic of Ireland is workable, unambiguous, and uses the state's own official description, per legislation;
 * It doesn't allow the state to reside at a page called by its official name, but so what? There are literally dozens of country articles in the Wiki not on the official name of their state;
 * For quite some time an acceptable compromise of pipelinking Republic of Ireland as Ireland in appropriate places was working fine - no reason it can't be used again.

Users that endorse this summary

 * 1) Bastun BaStun not BaTsun 17:42, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) BritishWatcher (talk) 17:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) waggers (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) — Blue-Haired Lawyer 13:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Kittybrewster   &#9742;  23:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 6)  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Users that oppose this summary

 * 1) MusicInTheHouse (talk) 23:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) HighKing (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Robertbyrne (talk) 22:47, 12 April 2009 (UTC)