Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial arts/Article Review/17th June 2010

Added June 17

 * Amateur Martial Association: Martial arts organizations, Martial arts stubs; Notability
 * AfD I can't find anything in independent sources to show this organization is notable. Papaursa (talk) 21:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Association de Karaté japonais du Québec: Karate organizations; Notability
 * AfD This is another organization I can't find independent sources on. Papaursa (talk) 21:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Battle of Columbus (Martial Arts): Martial arts competitions, Martial arts stubs; Notability
 * Proposed for deletion by Papaursa. Janggeom (talk) 13:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Bison System: Indian martial arts, Jeet Kune Do; Notability
 * AfD. I looked, but have not yet found reliable sources to support notability. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Biu Tze: Chinese martial arts terms, Martial arts terminology stubs, Wing Chun; Notability
 * Information already in Wing Chun article, Redirected


 * Brad Walker (martial artist): United States martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * AfD. Does not appear to meet WP:MANOTE, unless his competition record can be verified as notable. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Bun Sothea: Martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * AfD. Does not appear to meet WP:MANOTE, unless his competition record can be verified as notable. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Capoeira Angola: Capoeira; Notability
 * AfD. Some sources appear to support notability, but I think this is worth discussion unless a subject expert advocates keeping this article. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Chan Sau Chung: Martial arts school founders; Notability
 * Keep (and improve), unless a subject expert considers notability to be lacking. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Chang Chun-Feng: Martial arts school founders; Notability
 * Keep (and improve), unless a subject expert considers notability to be lacking. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Charles C. Goodin: Martial arts writers; Notability
 * Keep (and improve), unless a subject expert considers notability to be lacking. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Charles Gaylord: United States martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * AfD. Some sources appear to support notability, but I think this is worth discussion unless a subject expert advocates keeping this article. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Chayon-ryu: Taekwondo; Notability
 * Proposed for deletion by Papaursa. Janggeom (talk) 13:36, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Cheng Hsin: Hybrid martial arts; Notability
 * Unsure This article was PRODded by Astudent0. After the time the article could have been removed, an editor removed the PROD because it "limits us from hearing a different viewpoint which is lacking in references only because it is new."  The lack of independent references is the problem.  I don't see the independent sources to show notability.  The list of published books supports notability, but I'd be happier seeing some third party sources.  An AfD might settle the issue. Papaursa (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * AfD. As far as I can see, all of the substantial sources for this article (and the article on its founder) were written by the founder himself (Peter Ralston). From what I remember of looking at the founder's article a while ago, the claims would meet WP:MANOTE; the problem is that there do not appear to be substantial secondary sources. Janggeom (talk) 14:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Chicago Swordplay Guild: Historical European martial arts; Notability
 * Keep Seems like this has come up before. It seems to be sourced in multiple independent publications, sometimes with more than just a passing mention. Papaursa (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Christian Tissier: Martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * Keep I cannot imagine how this got tagged with notability: it has references. Christian Tissier was invited to give an aikido demo at the 40th year celebration of aikido in Switzerland. jmcw (talk) 12:42, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment When I originally put the notability tag on the article it was unsourced. Frankly, I don't see great notability in the article I can read.  He's written a bunch of aikido books and that may be sufficient to show notability.  I just wanted someone with knowledge about aikido to weigh in. Papaursa (talk) 21:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Chung Suk Kuhapdo: Korean martial arts; Notability
 * AfD Article has no sources and doesn't really show notability. Papaursa (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Demetrious Johnson (fighter): Mixed martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * AfD Fails WP:MMANOT since he hasn't fought for major organizations. Papaursa (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Dieter Knüttel: German martial artists; Notability
 * AfD unless a subject expert advocates keeping this article. Janggeom (talk) 14:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Do Pi Kung Fu: Chinese martial arts, Martial arts stubs; Notability
 * AfD This article is basically unsourced and I can't find independent references that show its notability. Appears to be another art that's just a combination of existing arts. Papaursa (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Don Angier: American martial artists; Notability
 * AfD Can't find notability and the article's only source is autobiographical. Papaursa (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Resolved Left Overs

 * Vic Moore: American karateka, American martial artists; Notability
 * Keep (and improve). Notability seems clear to me. Janggeom (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Victor Estima: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioners, Martial arts biography stubs; Notability
 * AfD. I believe the claims would support notability under WP:MANOTE, but need reliable sources. Janggeom (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * William Vandry: American practitioners of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu; Notability
 * AfD. I believe the claims would support notability under WP:MANOTE, but need reliable sources. Janggeom (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * World Modern Arnis Alliance: Eskrima, Martial arts organizations, Philippine martial arts; Notability
 * Merge to Modern Arnis. Janggeom (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yoshukai: Full contact karate, Japanese karate, Traditional karate; Notability
 * Currently being proposed for deletion by Astudent0. I was going to recommend AfD. Janggeom (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)