Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/German destroyer Z31


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Article promoted by Cinderella157 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 03:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC) &laquo; Return to A-Class review list

German destroyer Z31

 * Nominator(s):, 

I am nominating this article for A-Class review because it is a good article, and part of a series I'm working on. Iazyges  Consermonor   Opus meum  14:14, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Support Comments: G'day, I made a few tweaks, and have the following suggestions/observations: AustralianRupert (talk) 07:59, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * the dates of ordering and launching are inconsistent between the infobox and the body of the article
 * I've fixed the body date by explaining that they were actually ordered on 19 September 1939. Discrepancy comes from them being cancelled and re-ordered. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  23:13, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
 * "Scrapped early 1960's" --> "Scrapped early 1960s"
 * the article has a mixture of British and US English, e.g. "draft" (US) but also "draught" and "harbour" etc (British)
 * "Eight 533mm": should have a non breaking space after the numerals
 * inconsistent: "Eight 533mm" (body) v. "53.3 cm" (infobox)
 * inconsistent: "20 mm guns" (body) v. "2 cm" (infobox)
 * suggest mentioning war reparations specifically in the French service section in the body of the article
 * in French service, do we know what tasks the destroyer undertook, or where it operated?
 * suggest adding a caption to the image in the infobox to make it clear it is of the ship in French service
 * for the Groner source, suggest adding a translation for the title
 * suggest mentioning war reparations specifically in the French service section in the body of the article
 * in French service, do we know what tasks the destroyer undertook, or where it operated?
 * suggest adding a caption to the image in the infobox to make it clear it is of the ship in French service
 * for the Groner source, suggest adding a translation for the title
 * suggest adding a caption to the image in the infobox to make it clear it is of the ship in French service
 * for the Groner source, suggest adding a translation for the title
 * for the Groner source, suggest adding a translation for the title
 * for the Groner source, suggest adding a translation for the title


 * I believe I have done all that you have asked. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  23:23, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Comment, Support from Vami_IV


 * This article's organization into sections seems weird to me and is very short. Consider:
 * Breaking "Construction and design" down into a paragraph detailing its design, and a subsection for its construction.
 * Rename to "Design and construction"?
 * Breaking "Kriegsmarine service" down into "World War II" and "Later war," both subsections
 * Dubious as to usefulness of this. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  02:00, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This article is lacking in photographs and supporting material as a whole, in violation of of B-class Criterion #5.
 * Consider adding a table to "Construction and design" detailing Z31's designed stats and a note or two on any design changes and/or modifications made at a later date.
 * Consider adding an image of the location of construction to section "Construction and design."
 * Otherwise, I support this article. All harvids work and the article is lush with citations.
 * Otherwise, I support this article. All harvids work and the article is lush with citations.

X – Vami _IV✠  13:17, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * G'day, Vami, to clarify the article has both an infobox and image, which more than satisfies the B5 criterion. It also satisfies the A-class criteria, which only requires some sort of supporting materials where relevant, without quantifying how many examples are required. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 01:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Comments Support by Indy beetle
-Indy beetle (talk) 22:28, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "On 28 June 1939, orders for nine destroyers (Z31–Z39) of the new Type 1938B class were placed" by Germany
 * Any info on the strategic reasons for ordering the ship? Fleet expansion program, replacing older ships?
 * I've added in info on it; was a part of Plan Z. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "Kriegsmarine service" and "French service" - for purposes of NPOV, should either change the former to "German service" or the latter to "Marine Nationale service".
 * "the ship underwent a lengthy work up process". What is meant by "work up process"?
 * I've added a link to wiktionary. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "After commissioning...After being damaged" Mix it up.
 * I've added a link to wiktionary. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "After commissioning...After being damaged" Mix it up.


 * Believe I have addressed all of your comments. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  14:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
 * All my comments have been addressed. -Indy beetle (talk) 21:32, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


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