Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/HAL HF-73

No consensus to promote at this time - Ian Rose (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 12:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC) &laquo; Return to A-Class review list

HAL HF-73
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 * Nominator(s): 

I am nominating this article for A-Class review because, this article is not rated yet and believe it comply with the criteria Echo1Charlie (talk) 09:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose, suggest withdrawal This might be a B-class article, but they're assessed at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests. It's too short for A-class. Nick-D (talk) 10:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry I referred to this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/A-Class) criteria, there's no mention about length of the article.
 * See criterion A2 Nick-D (talk) 10:43, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes I've read that, the article is comprehensive and no detail is left. -Echo1Charlie (talk) 11:27, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Comments: I have the following comments/suggestions, but overall I am in agreeance that this is not at the moment a broad enough topic to be considered for A-class. I don't mean to dampen your enthusiasm, but that is how I see it. It is, of course, just an opinion. Other reviewers may, of course, disagree. Anyway, I offer the following comments/suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC) – I'm not a native English speaker, sorry for the grammar mistakes, I'll try to correct it as soon as possible. Thank you for your valuable suggestions. -Echo1Charlie (talk) 17:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * the lead says it was a strike fighter, but the infobox says air interdictor and a strike fighter -- please make this consistent
 * the lead should mention that the project was cancelled and how many prototypes existed
 * add relevant years to the lead to provide some more context
 * the article needs a copy edit, for instance here are a few issues (not exhaustive):
 * "the HAL" --> remove the definite article
 * "meet the Air Staff Requirements (ASR) of the Indian Air Force (IAF) for an attack aircraft": what did these stipulate?
 * this sentence isn't grammatically correct: "critical stage of take off, resulted in the rapid loss"
 * this is awkwardly worded: "During the time period from 1966 to 1970..."
 * "the IAF had issued an ASR": "had" isn't necessary here
 * "the HAL and the MBB of Germany had entered": as above
 * "a joint venture programme called Hindustan Fighter - Experimental (HF-X)" --> "the joint Hindustan Fighter - Experimental (HF-X) programme"
 * "engine wasn't materialized due to various reasons"
 * ref 2, Web Archive isn't the correct publisher -- list the original publisher, and then use the "|via=" function in the cite web template for the Web Archive annotation
 * ref 5, add title case capitalisation and a page number
 * ref 7, remove YoungBites from the title as it is duplicated in the work/website
 * what makes refs 1, 2, 3 and 7 reliable per WP:RS?
 * I would suggest that the main problem here is that it seems incomplete (whether that is actually the case or not) as it has only a single section -- for instance, could you potentially add a proposed specifications section and an operational history section? For instance, see another article on a proposed aircraft that didn't go into production: CAC CA-15
 * split the paragraph in the HF-X programme section
 * "wasn't" -- probably best to avoid contractions in formal writing
 * remove the duplicate link for the RB199
 * currently the article is only in one category -- are there any others that are relevant?
 * potentially taking this to peer review might help gain some ideas for expansion

Coord comment -- Although I can see that the nominator has made the effort to improve the article since Rupert's comments, there's been no activity at this review for a month and no support for promotion to A-Class. I therefore plan to close the review and suggest that GAN might be a more appropriate venue for this subject (along with PR, before or after that). Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)